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My journal has of late been rather filled with fairly serious and/or child-focused stuff.

So here's a bit of highbrow silliness.

I riffed with a friend on the potential confusion between the philosopher Isaiah Berlin and the songsmith Irving Berlin. (I should fess up that this was in fact a genuine confusion in my mind at one point.) What sort of polymathic genius could produce both the analytical power of White Christmas and the timeless crowd-pleaser The Hedgehog and The Fox? To say nothing of his syncretic meisterwerk, Top Hat, White Tie and Two Concepts of Liberty?

Since I am, as [livejournal.com profile] steer has observed, never one to knowingly underuse a joke, here's an incomplete list of philosophers and musicians who are frequently confused or conflated. Or perhaps should be.

Isaiah Berlin / Irving Berlin
William James Brown
Dewey Lewis and the News
Wittgenstein / Rammstein
Friedrich "Freddie" Nietzsche and the Dreamers
Whitehead / Whitesnake
Immannuel Kant / Brian Cant
Plato / Placebo
Rene Descartes and Renata
Jacques Derrida / Crazy Frog
Baudrillard / Bo Diddley
Foucault / Foo Fighters
Seneca / Sinitta
Aristotle / 'Arry Secombe
David Hume / David Gray
Peter, Paul and Mary Warnock
Crosby, Stills and John Nash [fn1]
Kierkegaard / Kiri Te Kanawa
Eddie Husserl / Eddie van Halen [fn2]
Baudrillard / Bo Diddley
John Locke / Jon Bon Jovi
Gottfried Leibniz / Godley and Creme
Celine Di Beauvoir
Paul Simon de Beauvoir [fn3]
Little Richard Rorty
Black Eyed Piagets
Gnarls Berkeley
Sammy Davis, Bruner
Descartes / Des O'Connor
Robbie Williams of Occam
Peter Abba-lard
Rolf Harristotle
Machiavelli / Mantovani
Thomas Ackerbilkuinas
Bill Haley and his Camus
Elton John-Jacques Rousseau
Spinozsa-zsa Gabor [fn4]
S(in)artre

Any more for any more? Or suggestions for works produced by these composite creators?

[fn1] What do you mean he's not a philosopher? Game Theory is surely in the philosopher's C20th Top 40.
[fn2] It's a little known fact that his given name is Edmund Lodewijk van Halen.
[fn3] I did say 'never one to knowingly underuse a joke'.
[fn4] What do you mean she's not a musician? She did a tiny bit of singing at the start of her career. And I couldn't let a red hot pun like that pass un-logged.

Date: 2009-07-06 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
I'd have gone for David Human League, myself. Also, Paul Jung and A J Enya.

Date: 2009-07-06 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duranorak.livejournal.com
Paul Jung is beautiful.

Date: 2009-07-06 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Fantastic!

I do like David Human League - it somehow seems very appropriate, both ways.

Date: 2009-07-06 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duranorak.livejournal.com
S(in)artre

This is easily the best thing on my entire Flist this morning. Closely followed by 'Seneca/Sinitta'.

I wish to god I remembered enough philosophy from my mostly abysmal A level therein to join in, but I wanted to firmly register my OH MY GOD I JUST NOTICED 'Bill Haley and his Camus', I THINK HAVE DIED OF JOY :D

Date: 2009-07-06 10:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] booklectica
I think Rolf Harristotle is my favourite!

Date: 2009-07-06 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Can you tell what it is yet? It's a model of different types of causality, heh-heh-heh! Bit of red there, bit of formal cause there, heh-heh-heh!

Date: 2009-07-06 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Glad to be of service!

It was 'Seneca/Sinitta' that convinced me that it was better to change from my first attempts ('Seneca and Sinitta' or 'Seneca vs Sinitta') in favour of the slash version

Date: 2009-07-06 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] makyo.livejournal.com
... here's an incomplete list of philosophers and musicians who are frequently confused or conflated. Or perhaps should be.

Or not.

Date: 2009-07-06 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
You don't think it would contribute to the general understanding of philosophical concepts if more pop starts were linked to great thinkers?

Date: 2009-07-06 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldbloke.livejournal.com
AC/DC Ewing

The Crazy World Of Arthur Koestler (youngsters: Arthur Brown was the first, and possibly last, person to appear on stage [and Top Of The Pops] with a flaming headdress)

Date: 2009-07-06 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Excellent! Though must confess I had resort to Wikipedia for A.C. Ewing. It's a shame he goes as 'Anthony' these days or we could try for AC/DC Grayling.

Koestler would so appreciate being the God Of Hellfire!

Date: 2009-07-06 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
I think there was a real-life pairing - wasn't Paul McCartney married to John Stewart Mills for a while ?

Date: 2009-07-06 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Yeah, but the relationship was never going to last - McCartney thinks that love is all you need, which isn't terribly utilitarian.

Date: 2009-07-06 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnypip.livejournal.com
But isn't McCartney connected with that other utilitarian, William God-Wings?

Not forgetting William's wife; Mary Wollstone-Kraftwerk?

Date: 2009-07-06 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Oh, fab! A Vindication of the Rights of Robots and A Mull of Political Justice

(Especially fab given that they're two of my minor heroes.)

Date: 2009-07-06 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnypip.livejournal.com
mine too. I am particularly conscious of them at the moment as I dropped in to visit their son-in-law at the weekend :-)

Date: 2009-07-06 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
I've always been amazed that the same person could write such moving poetry on the folly of war, provide such incisive commentary on US politics, and create such a great range of hair care products!

Date: 2009-07-06 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnypip.livejournal.com
*grin*

an unusual skill-set, certainly :-D

Date: 2009-07-06 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Didn't he also rebound from an unsuccessful US Presidential run by becoming an environmental campaigner? Or am I confusing him with the white-tiger magic act in Vegas?

Date: 2009-07-06 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
The very same :-)

Date: 2009-07-06 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steer.livejournal.com
Heh... I genuinely did confuse them for a while... really.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravensthorpe.livejournal.com
Jacques Derrida / Crazy Frog

The joke only works if they are not the same person really.

Date: 2009-07-06 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment.

(Although in fairness, Derrida died in 2004 and that ringtone didn't appear until 2005.)

Date: 2009-07-06 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slightlyfoxed.livejournal.com
Franz Ferdinand de Saussure is kind of cheating.

Date: 2009-07-06 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Maybe, but I'm sure it signifies something, on several levels.

Date: 2009-07-06 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steer.livejournal.com
How could you forget UCL's top dude Jeremy Benny Benassi and his club hit "Satisfaction (utility maximisation)"?

Of course there's also the 3rd Earl Hines of Russell if we're generous enough to count Jazz as music rather than merely disordered irksome sounds.

Date: 2009-07-07 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neilhudson.livejournal.com
I would have gone for Bishop Berkeley James Harvest, and Sinnietzche. And didn't Foucault sing "Rock Me Amadeus"?

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