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{1st Outbreak; Video} Trial
Trial: CW: Zombies, Child with a gun, Mercy killing.
(Figuring to have her escape sentencing even if she is found guilty, since she did literally just basically get here to have her dying already. But figured to throw this up here as well as at the log itself since it might be easier with the network.)
[Sure. Clementine might vaguely be aware of the justice system having been a thing back home. Knew Lee had been in trouble back home, before the outbreak. She didn't anticipate that she would end up involved though. But apparently she is. For shooting Lee way back when, in the earlier months in the initial aftermath of the outbreak. To spare him from turning after he got bit trying to find her when she got kidnapped.
Clementine's crime is shown to everyone at the trial. Regardless of the circumstances, it's argued that even if she did it in an act of mercy and in self defense in protecting herself in case he turned and attacked her, she still killed Lee Everett. And at eight years old. Of course that's factored in. Her young age at the time.
Clementine isn't sure there's anything to be said even if she felt up to defending herself, silent as the timer starts to play out then and the jurors decide her fate. Her being guilty or innocent of the crime. It's hardly the only one she's committed over the years, but probably the first bigger one. She just waits, hating feeling so helpless in this.]
I....I shot him. I shot Jane later on too. To stop Lee turning. To save Kenny, to stop Jane killing him. I -- I did it.
[That much was true. Objectively. She isn't going to deny that. This just didn't show the entire context. What walkers were. What would have happened to Lee if she hadn't spared him that fate. To let it sink in for others.]
(Figuring to have her escape sentencing even if she is found guilty, since she did literally just basically get here to have her dying already. But figured to throw this up here as well as at the log itself since it might be easier with the network.)
[Sure. Clementine might vaguely be aware of the justice system having been a thing back home. Knew Lee had been in trouble back home, before the outbreak. She didn't anticipate that she would end up involved though. But apparently she is. For shooting Lee way back when, in the earlier months in the initial aftermath of the outbreak. To spare him from turning after he got bit trying to find her when she got kidnapped.
Clementine's crime is shown to everyone at the trial. Regardless of the circumstances, it's argued that even if she did it in an act of mercy and in self defense in protecting herself in case he turned and attacked her, she still killed Lee Everett. And at eight years old. Of course that's factored in. Her young age at the time.
Clementine isn't sure there's anything to be said even if she felt up to defending herself, silent as the timer starts to play out then and the jurors decide her fate. Her being guilty or innocent of the crime. It's hardly the only one she's committed over the years, but probably the first bigger one. She just waits, hating feeling so helpless in this.]
I....I shot him. I shot Jane later on too. To stop Lee turning. To save Kenny, to stop Jane killing him. I -- I did it.
[That much was true. Objectively. She isn't going to deny that. This just didn't show the entire context. What walkers were. What would have happened to Lee if she hadn't spared him that fate. To let it sink in for others.]

Video: UN: be-lou-ga
You have to do what you have to do. Just because our world puts you into shitty no-win situations doesn't mean that's your fault. You know that, right?
video: un: clementine
[Which is what they are arguing of course. That Clementine at such a young age was a brutal killer. Clementine isn't really arguing against that because she knows she pulled the trigger. It would have been difficult either way. Leaving Lee to turn or shooting him. But a choice had to be made.]
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[It's just... the way things are. It's shitty and he hates it, but there#s sweet fuck all any of them can do.]
It's who you are now that matters- you literally said that directly to me, so there.
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[The circumstances that led to that. To her shooting Lee. She bites her lower lip. She's quiet then as she takes a breath.]
The reason he got bit in the first place is because he was looking for me. Because I trusted some stranger I was talking to with my walkie talkie. So....yeah. Kind of still feels like it was all my fault.
Me now compared to back then has killed even more people since. I'm not sure me now would have any better luck at not being found guilty for this.
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[He hates the bear. Something Louis isn't predisposed to often, hate, but good lord he despises this bear.]
But it wasn't. He made his own choices. And if we keep letting all the shit we feel guilty about tear us down, then none of us are going to be able to get the fuck up again. [A little desperation creeps into his tone.] Don't do this to yourself, Clem. Please.
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[Or, well. Most likely not given the situation but she's. Trying not to worry him too much, to be too much of a downer. At least she knows he's alright. The obvious fretting over her not withstanding anyway.]
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[Home was bad enough. Was rough enough in just trying to survive. Let alone worse? What would Louis consider worse? It's almost hard to imagine even given how desperate things could be back home in just managing to scavenge enough food to get by for the day. To figure shelter while on the move.]
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[Until, you know, more dreadful things happen here, he guesses. That's always a guarantee. ]
Let's say this place an turn you into a literal monster sometimes and just leave it at that.
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[But up to the jury. At least as far as she figures. Only being vaguely aware of how this stuff works, given her younger age before the outbreak and what the justice system was like back then. Clementine isn't the most experienced with this for obvious reasons.]
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[He eyeballs the screen like he's trying to glare into the jury's souls.]
Well. If they know what's right, they'll know you didn't do shit.
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[Clementine will remember that. Hopefully, in the midst of all of this. This trial and this place bringing back memories she didn't want to think back on. Didn't want to have follow her here quite this literally at least. Even if it always did. Always would. In her blaming herself for what happened to Lee.]
Maybe. I guess we'll see.
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[Or not show up at all, he's super okay with October not being a thing.]
Hang in there, Clemster. We'll figure it out.
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[She isn't about to put all her eggs in the innocent basket, anyway. She would want to have some sort of back up in mind in figuring this out. Somehow. Some way out. There has to be. If they pulled her here, if the bear got here and all, she should be able to find some way that they all got in somehow, right?]
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[But well. Clementine is stubborn as all heck when she has to be. When it comes to her survival. Of course she has to try. Is glancing around now to see if she can spot anything.]
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[He says that with a great deal of respect, but Clem, you're a tough nut to crack.]
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[Seems about all she can do right now. Focus on getting out if possible, then messaging him when she can. Or messaging him when she is back from being killed, either way.]
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[He can't do anything, but he's not about to give up now- that tenacity to survive is something she taught him after all. ]
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[She wants to be hopeful. She's too stubborn to have entirely given up. She's just also realistic in accepting the chance that this doesn't exactly end well.]
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[A hesitation, then he uses her closing statement, uses it like a promise.]
See you on the other side.
Audio - UN: Runeseeker
That is not the same thing as murder. [She growled.] No matter how this bear tries to pretend that's a crime, it's a sick joke among a thousand sick jokes that he thinks he can judge something like that.
I don't think there's a way he could depict this that would make me vote against you.
[It helped a lot that she'd had it explained several times what Walkers really were, and the fact that they were nothing like risen zombies of magic.]
Audio - UN: clementine
[Lee was going to die from the bite anyway, but still. If one were just going by the facts and not the circumstances surrounding her intentions, on why she did it. Yeah, she shot him.]
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But more to the point, he was not their citizen. It did not happen on their soil. It does not affect them anymore than it would me. It will never be their right to judge this.
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[Then again. Not like she has the most educated knowledge. She was only eight when the outbreak happened. It isn't like she is some expert on the specific legal definitions or anything. Even if her moral code and world view are skewed to be much less black and white than they used to be.]
You say that like it stopped any of the other trials happening. I don't think that matters to them, where we were from and where these crimes happened.
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None of which I feel matters right now. [She shook her head.] You're right. The bear does not care. He could easily judge me as he does you. But he gave me a vote, and I think you know which button I pressed.
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[She isn't sure she realized the breath she was holding, as she exhales when the other says she voted innocent. Not having realized quite how tense she was with this. How freaked out this makes her and how heavily she had been carrying this guilt for years.]
....Thanks.
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When... your life isn't on the line in front of a crazy bear and his deranged court, I wouldn't mind talking with you about this. I think you have had a lot to deal with in your life. I'm not sure how much I can help, but I'd like to.
But, the short answer is "It's complicated and can vary from country to country." Here, I think you know that I don't agree with them imposing their laws.
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[She had been through a lot. And kept a lot from others in being more private. In not figuring things to be like a competition of who went through the worst shit back home or whatever. Clementine gives a shrug at that.]
But true. I guess it's kind of like every state? Every country? Has their own laws. We're here now, so. We have to keep theirs in mind? Not that with Lee, that that happened here.....
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And yes, exactly. But at least I'm not the only one who sees that today.
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Seems like it. I guess we'll see if everyone thinks the same. Then see what happens depending on how it goes.
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