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A link from [livejournal.com profile] cos: Why did Japan surrender?. It's a review of research by historian Tsuyoshi Hasegawa, claiming that the primary factor in the Japanese surrender that ended World War II was the Soviet entry into the war against Japan, and not the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as is commonly believed.

I did a term paper in college on the necessity of the atomic bombing (coming down pretty firmly in the revisionist camp that claims it was unnecessary), so this is familiar ground despite my having not looked at it in two decades. One thing that the article doesn't cover, and nor does an article of Hasegawa's that I looked up, is the effect of the bomb on the Soviet decision to enter the war against Japan. They were definitely planning to do so, if for no better reason than to have a share in the spoils of Japan's inevitable defeat, and indeed the conclusion I drew was that this was at least as major a factor in the decision to drop the bomb as was the desire to avoid an invasion of the home islands. I also concluded that the bombings prompted Stalin to declare war and invade Manchuria as rapidly as possible, so as to get at least a place at the table, and that the Nagasaki bombing was at least in part prompted by the Soviet declaration, to help effect a surrender as rapidly as possible before the Soviets got too far. So you have a complicated interplay here in the motivations and actions of three governments. Hasegawa reads Russian fluently as well as Japanese and English, so I'm sure he's studied this in far more detail.

Now, this was a college term paper built entirely on secondary sources, nothing to be confused with actual historical scholarship, and I freely admit that I came into it with some degree of bias. Though maybe I should have been biased in the other direction, as my father would have been in the front lines of the invasion of the Japanese home islands. His viewpoint on this is much less equivocal than mine. :-)
Date: 2011-08-15 04:25 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] oneagain.livejournal.com
Bias can be useful.
Date: 2011-08-15 05:41 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] achinhibitor.livejournal.com
My father always maintained that the primary purpose of the bombings was to show the Soviets that we were willing to use The Bomb on humans, thus telling Stalin that if he pushed further West we would bomb major cities in the Soviet Union.

But a lot of this retrospective seems to me to be Monday-morning hand-wringing, people sitting around trying to decide whether an act of war as "morally acceptable" because it was "necessary". War is the absence of morality...
Date: 2011-08-15 09:42 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] sandhawke.livejournal.com
The interesting (and yet kind of obvious) part, for me, in the Globe article was the assertion than wartime leaders are not motivated towards surrendering by civilian deaths. So, it's not about moralizing or hand-wringing, it's about tactics to use for the future. (Or, in particular, tactics not to use. Don't think that the ability to kill massive numbers of civilians is going to win you a war, except perhaps as it slowly erodes the war machine it is supporting.)
Date: 2011-08-18 03:05 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] achinhibitor.livejournal.com
I think you're more accurate regarding the historians that were discussed in the piece than the journalist who wrote the piece, who did digress into whether the bombing was "necessary".

Framing it as a question about civilian deaths, or destruction of civilian infrastructure more generally, is a good point. Previously in the war, there had been much bombing of civilian targets, much of it without noticeable effect on the belligerents' behavior. Hamburg and Dresden were largely destroyed via firestorms, as sort of warm-up acts to the nuclear bombings. IIRC, Tokyo suffered a firebombing that didn't start a firestorm, but still killed almost as many people (100,000) as the nuclear bombings.

And yet the threat of nuclear bombing has been quite motivational for governments ever since. But Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't very significant to the government of Japan, whereas nuclear bombing the center of a capital city would make a great deal of difference to a national government.
Date: 2011-08-15 07:02 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] lillibet.livejournal.com
You might enjoy History Wars, a book of essays published after the Smithsonian cancelled its planned exhibit of the Enola Gay. It includes very interesting musings on the function of revisionism in history--whether any history can be said to not be "revisionist"--and the place of the bombing in American history and culture. I have never been a WWII buff, but I found it a fascinating read.
Date: 2011-08-15 07:55 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] lizarde.livejournal.com
I remember that paper!

Yeah, I wouldn't be here either without the post-bomb Japanese surrender. Granddaddy is pretty certain of that.

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