Interview from Nijireta-shiso:
[interviewer]-- First of all, please tell us where you were born and how you were when you grew up. I can't really picture you as a child, though (laugh).
[Byou] I was born in Tokyo. And, this is what I heard, but they say I was really... cute (sheepish laugh).
-- That must be something difficult to say for you (laugh). Did you heard this from your parents?
From my parents and from people in my neighborhood. In any case, they say I was cute (laugh).
-- Even though everybody tells you that you were cute, don't you have any memories about yourself?
Hmm, at that time I didn't even really look at myself in a mirror.
-- Do you have siblings?
I have 2 younger brothers.
-- 3 boys! Usually, the oldest son is told "But you're the big brother!" and has to look after his younger brothers. Therefore, he's not really in a position to get a lot of attention.
Of course even if I look at my younger brothers now, I think I'm the cutest (laugh).
-- Well, what kind of household did this cute young boy called Byou live in?
A very normal household.
-- So you were a normal young boy (laugh)? Did anything leave some kind of impression on you at that time?
It seems like I loved cars, and I'd ride someone's shoulders and go see cars.
-- Once again, it's nothing but things you've heard from other people though (laugh).
Yeah (sheepish laugh). And, it seems like I could even tell apart almost all the types of cars. I really loved toy cars.
-- Indeed, you had a pretty normal childhood. What did you dream of becoming when you were in kindergarten?
Nothing in particular, I guess.
-- Oh, I see (laugh). Well then, what kind of child were you when you were in elementary school?
I was physically fragile. Therefore, I took swimming classes, and I even learned kendo. I had bad asthma. My parents probably made me do those things. I did them during the first 2 years of elementary school, then from the 3rd year I started playing baseball. I think maybe I was interested in baseball.
-- Was it because you liked the Tokyo Giants?
Yes, you're completely right (laugh)!
-- We still haven't talked about music at all, though (laugh)
In elementary school, I absolutely hated music class. The music teacher almost made fun of me.
-- You were made fun of?
It was probably because I sang in this really weird pitch? But I do have memories of being laughed at.
-- Like... you had no ear for music...(laugh)?
Even now this hasn't changed, though (sheepish laugh).
-- No way, what are you saying (laugh)! Well, how long have you continued to play baseball?
I'm digressing a bit, but I played until my 3rd year of junior high school. During my 2nd year of junior high school, I aimed to be a professional baseball player... even though I only played soft ball (sheepish laugh).
-- Really? That's no good isn't it!
That's right. There was a proper baseball club too...... but I wasn't interested in that one.
-- Why not (laugh)? Professional baseball isn't softball! But as expected, you must have started listening to music in junior high school, right?
That's right. ...Rather, I started getting interested in my surroundings. And as a result, I became interested in music.
-- What did you listen to back then?
A friend had X Japan's live video, I think that might have been my first exposure to visual-kei.
-- You went for the big names.
Among them... (he points at VAMPS' HYDE on the cover of the previous issue of this magazine) They impacted me greatly.
-- You mean, L'Arc-en-ciel, right? Around when was that?
Maybe "flower" or something. From there, I went back and bought all their previous CDs. I recorded all their appearances on TV too.
-- Finally this conversation is getting passionate!
Anyway, I was blown away by their looks and by the vocals.
-- Did you also go to their concerts?
Yes, I did. When I was in high school. I think it was probably the "1999 GRAND CROSS TOUR" at Tokyo BIG SIGHT.
-- I see that you got interested in L'arc-en-ciel when you moved from junior high school to high school...... but say, what happened with softball at that time (laugh)? Do you mean to say you listened to L'arc-en-ciel with your head shaved like a monk (laugh)?
This is where it gets complicated again (sheepish laugh). It's a bit approximate, but around that time I think I wanted to become an actor.
-- Huh (laugh)?
During that period, I stopped playing baseball, got interested in visual kei and listened to nothing but it. It was a really short period, though. And I was even sending my curriculum vitae to magazines... I was doing some pretty embarrassing stuff.
-- Huuuh (sweat).
I wasn't the type who stood out a lot in class, but I think I was a boy who wanted to stand out in some kind of way. And for my last competition with my baseball club, we had to have our heads close-shaved. I said "I'm not shaving my head!" and left the baseball club.
-- So then you applied for contests in magazines. And if we were going to make this conversation turn dramatic, I hope you would say something like you were popular with the audience (laugh).
I did appear in magazines (sheepish laugh)
-- Really! Isn't that great!
It didn't feel like much, though (sheepish laugh).
-- Aah, like a page where those who passed the initial screening are lined up in a two-page spread?But even if you only appeared there, isn't it great?
Not that much...... It's embarrassing (sheepish laugh).
-- What is (laugh)? I think it's great.
But that's the end of it.
-- So, you gave up that easily? Just to be sure, you were still in middle high school when you sent applications to magazines, right?
Yes. But of course when I was in middle high school, baseball was the most important thing.
-- You didn't cause any trouble at all?
I basically lived for baseball. I gave it all I had.
-- Say~ I just wanted to say this, but in elementary and middle high school, boys who are good at sports are really popular with girls, aren't they? What about you? You probably got a lot of chocolate on Valentine's Day.
I guess I received chocolate as much as anyone else. They would put it in my desk or give it to me directly, but I was just like "Ah, thanks" (sheepish laugh). I was kinda cold-hearted.
-- Probably because you were completely devoted to baseball. But in anycase, you were popular with girls, and you're good-looking too, so that's kinda something you could brag about.
It didn't feel like it. But wasn't I kinda sly? For example, during baseball practice, if girls were looking at us from the school building, I'd do a sliding even if it wasn't necessary (laugh). I mean, I guess I was trying to show off.
-- I guess this is connected to your current personality. This part of you that wants to appeal to those who are watching. Well, shall we leave the high school talk behind (laugh)? You were being exposed to visual-kei, and it seems like we can soon start talking about your activities within the music business.
During high school I would only be watching baseball. I didn't join any clubs either. From that time, I turned into a... good boy (sheepish laugh).
-- Really. It's hopeless then (laugh).
I'm not saying I was headed down the wrong path at all, but during my 3rd year of middle high school, I was told "You. There's no high school you can go to!"....... I don't know if it's because I was doing too much baseball or if I wasn't studying hard enough though... Beyond expectations, I ended up going to an all-boy school. Then, all the friends I made there were involved in music-related clubs, and I guess that's when I joined a band.
-- Oooh! Then, judging from your secret tendency to want to stand out... I'm sure you were the vocalist, right?
Yes (laugh).
-- Even though you were made fun of by your music teacher in elementary school, where did you brush up your singing skills?
I started going to karaoke in middle high school.
--- But isn't karaoke kinda just a passtime for students? Anyway, is that how your talent for singing was revealed?
Not at all! I just enjoyed singing the songs of artists I liked on karaoke. With that said, I didn't join any clubs in high school either, and I guess I just went to karaoke every day after school. While I did that, I gradually started to like singing, and then I formed a cover band.
-- Finally!
And of course, as you may have guessed, I was the vocalist (sheepish laugh). Actuall, I was taught how to play some instruments a little, but as expected it made my fingertips hurt... I was defeated (sheepish laugh).
-- Well, were the other members in the cover band you put together classmates of yours or something?
That's right. We did covers of our favorite bands. Also, I had a friend who played guitar, and after we did karaoke, I went to that guy's house and we would read magazines. From then, I guess I learned about bands who wore a lot of makeup. The other members in this band, the drummer and the bassist, were also friends with this guitarist.
-- This guitarist's degree of contribution was pretty high.
Yeah, it was. He even wrote songs. Right now I have no idea what he's doing, though (sheepish laugh).
-- You're so cold~ (laugh). Hmm, we hope he's doing well, though (laugh). Do you remember what that band was called?
Kukuku...... Do I have to say it (sheepish laugh)?
-- What (laugh)?
Aah, that brings back memories. Kukuku (laugh)!
-- I'm a bit curious, though (laugh) In any case, didn't this band's activities gain momentum?
It was just a cover band.
-- Didn't you also have the original songs the guitarist composed?
Yes, but we mainly did covers.
-- Well, you just played at school festivals and such?
In our school uniforms (sheepish laugh).
-- Until now, we've talked about surprisingly ordinary school activities. But while you were in high school, you must have been thinking about your future, right?
One of my sempai ended up joining our cover band, but despite the change, we still mainly did covers. Therefore, there isn't much to say about my high school years. For me, the most dramatic development was around when I graduated from high school. But in high school is when I got the feeling that I was going to make a living out of being in a band.
-- Eh? Even though it was just a cover band?
Even though it was just a cover band (laugh). I thought I could do this for the rest of my life. Actually, besides the school festival, we rented a tiny livehouse in the Adachi Ward, and we did some sort of cover band contest. We did lives pretty regularly.
-- With your cover band (laugh). But, of course, didn't you also think it would amount to nothing?
I did think that. But actually, I also thought if I kept trying, then maybe something would come out of it, too. From this point, I'm getting a few screws loose (sheepish laugh).
-- How about the pressure your parents put on you?
I don't remember ever being told to give up music. They let me do relatively anything I wanted. Maybe it's because, when I was in elementary school, my parents divorced and they spoiled me.
-- So they didn't say anything about the path you wanted to take?
That's right. After I graduated, I got a part-time job and earned a bit of money. Then, around that time I got contacted by one of my high school sempai. This sempai's older sister was working at a livehouse, and he told me that some band was looking to hire a roadie. At that time, I had absolutely no idea what a roadie was, but when I heard about it, I thought it was probably fate.
-- You went for it?
That's right.
-- Being a roadie is quite a difficult job.
Yeah, but I didn't know that at all......
-- So you had to learn everything at once, right (laugh)?
I truly couldn't tell the difference between right and left. I couldn't tell when there was a problem either. I was just trying to keep up with it all. From the start, I didn't know a thing about the equipment either. After all, wasn't I just a vocalist? In a cover band (laugh).
-- That's right (laugh).
But I learned little by little as I did stuff.
-- You must have gotten a lot of experience during that period, right?
If I hadn't been a roadie, I wouldn't be here today.
-- Because after being in a cover band, it would have been more difficult if you had started searching for new members without being a roadie. When you're a roadie, you can automatically make friends with other musicians. And some roadies also put bands together with other roadies. In the end, how long did you work as a roadie?
Maybe 4 years and half.
-- That's long (laugh)! You worked harder than you did with baseball!
That's right. Most people are surprised to hear that.
-- I am surprised (laugh)! Because we often hear about how people quit after only one day. I'm sure you must have been appreciated by those around you.
They have never told me such a thing, but I'm pretty sure they thought I was cute. Of course, I still wanted to get serious and start my own band. So, I often said "I've got a band too, so please make me work hard with that too." (laugh) I thought "I can do both at the same time!" It doesn't mean I was slacking off, though......
-- That's pretty rough...
That's right. I was a roadie, I had a part-time job and I was in a band... When I was busy with all three, it was really exhausting. Looking back, it took a lot of guts. But during those 4 years and half, I was taught a lot of things about being a vocalist, and, I'm the eldest son, right? So it felt like I had found older brothers.
-- In the end, when did you decide to move on?
This band was going on tour, so I thought "Well, I'll wait until the finale". At that time, I graduated from being a roadie. Then I had this weird self-confidence like I did in middle high school, and no momentum (sheepish laugh).
-- What? But even though you say that, there must be something you realized during those very important 4 and half years, right? Something important that made you want to continue being in a band.
This is what a senpai told me, but he said music is this and that, but it's the human side that makes it possible to continue being in a band.
-- Wow, I think this is exceptionally accurate in a sense.
Right now, I understand it and it's engrained deeply into me. But when I was younger and I didn't know a lot of people, I didn't choose that wisely. The advice was in my head, but I didn't follow it, and I screwed up a lot too.
-- The band you put together after graduating from being a roadie was JOKER, wasn't it?
That's right. But, I probably didn't put much thought into singing (sheepish laugh). I was only seeking to make an impact. I thought that was cool.
-- But we can't really say that was a mistake.
And JOKER was a band that ended due to personality-related issues. But I hated the thought that it was over because of something like that, so in the end I decided to give this one more try, and to a certain extent, I took the time to search for members while putting emphasis on their personalities. What eventually came out of this were the 4 original members of SCREW.
-- This is how SCREW was formed, but there have also been some lineup changes since then. This band you made and had a special attachment to, it must have frankly been a shock, right?
It was a big one. But when Manabu joined us before that, it was a big plus for us. Right from the start, I wanted SCREW to be 5 people, with two guitarists. But despite that, we couldn't quite find anyone, and I was sure that we would do as well just the 4 of us, so we went for it anyway. But the whole time, we still wished we had another member. Then Manabu came in, and the band felt perfect that way to me. I thought we'd be even better like this. So when the bassist decided to quit, I was like "Not again!" We talked about wether we should go on without a bassist, or look for a new one together, but deep inside I kinda felt like "To Hell with that."
-- You mean you didn't want to be in a band anymore?
I thought we should probably breakup. I lost my motivation all of a sudden. But the other members were all being positive.
-- So the other members cheered you up?
That's right. They convinced me. But even while we were searching for a new member, the gloomy feeling deep inside me still didn't go away.
-- Then, beyond expectations, came Rui-kun who lives in your neighborhood (laugh).
He just happens to live in my neighborhood. It's a coincidence. Originally, it seems like Kazuki and Rui had known each others since way back. I thought that guy had a really good timing.
-- When you met Rui-kun, what kind of impression did he make on you? This question is kinda testing the human side that's so important to you.
Until then, we had already met several people -- and this is probably going to sound mean, but it felt like these people were just leftovers. It felt like they all had some faults and that we couldn't choose them (sheepish laugh). I had a really negative way of thinking. Plus, all of those I thought would be great were already in a band.
-- You were completely negative, right (sheepish laugh)?
It was a period during which I was really down. Everyone I met felt like "yawn". But when I met Rui-kun, his smile left a deep impression on me..... I thought that guy would definitely do.
-- I know what you mean (laugh).
It seems like we even did a tai-ban live with the band Rui-kun was in before, but I didn't even notice him, and we never greeted each other. So it truly was the first time we met. I thought he was great guy even though he had tattoos. And in my already broken heart, I thought "What's with that smile!.... shit!" (laugh). And his house is also close to mine. It automatically felt like he was a relative.
-- With that said, the album "DUALITY" which you released in November is the first album you made since Rui-kun joined SCREW, so in a sense, doesn't it symbolize a new start for you?
It does. Before this album, we had released a new single for 2 consecutive months, but those didn't contain any songs made by Rui. On this album, 3 of the songs were composed by Rui, so in that sense it feels like we've finally started for real. Also, when we had rehearsals before letting the world know that Rui was the new member, I remember thinking at that time that I was having a lot of fun. I hoped we could do this again. It reminded me of the time when I was in a cover band.
-- But this isn't a cover band, though (laugh)!
I know (laugh). But it made me feel like being in the studio and just making noise was fun.
-- Having fun while you're doing something is important. If you don't, then it's hard to keep going. Also, aren't all the members good people? I heard that Kazuki-kun was a really nice guy too.
That's right. Even the first time I met Kazuki-kun, he was like a soccer player that gives off a refreshing, clean feeling (laugh). That was the kind of impression he gave me.
-- Even though the kind of music you make is kinda wild, and you sing about painful, bitter feelings... you're just a bunch of nice people.
I hope so (laugh) Because until now, there has truly been nothing but setbacks... Of course, there are still some harships, but if it turns out this doesn't work, I guess there's no future then.
-- You're putting a lot of pressure on yourself.
That's the way I am with everything, I guess.
-- It's necessary to relax too~.
Ah, it's alright. Because for the photoshoot today, I went to the aquarium.
-- Eh? Do you like going to the aquarium?
I do. When I need to pull myself together, or when I'm feeling depressed, going to the aquarium makes me feel better...... It's dark, and it's blue, and the background music is relaxing... It's full of things that make me feel better...
-- This is an unexpected side of you~.
When I go, I just space out (laugh). I guess there are a lot of things about the image I give off that are the exact opposite of who I really am. I love sweets too.
-- But you seemed so scary! You like skulls and such.
I do like skulls, but I like cute things too. I hope to have the chance to talk about things like that again (laugh).