bead: (Atlantis - Shep/Maybe I'm crazy)
She had a cute doggie macro posted over on some doggie macro thing...and....okay, it is too long, I sum up:

English speaking roosters say "Cocka doodle doo."
French speaking roosters say "Coco ri co."

Seriously. And their dogs go "bow bow"

I mean, this is from the people who gave us the word for "grapefruit" as "pamplemousse." (Which? Cracks me up.) There's crossover, but uh...very not one to one.

How can animals be onomotopoetic in different languages?

I mean. Dude.

(I swear, if you people totally try to answer this seriously, I will cut you. I mean I know why, it's our ears, and it's the same reason you feel like you should be able to speak French after a subtitled film. But still. Dude. It's kind of awesome.)

AND? How awesome is an international discussion of animal noises?

Date: 2007-06-05 11:29 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] lavvyan.livejournal.com
German roosters go Kikeriki. Do with that what you will. *g*

Date: 2007-06-05 12:01 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] roadrunner1896.livejournal.com
ext_33206: (Diefenbaker)
Darn. You stole my comment. ;)

German dogs go Wau Wau.

Capital letters are important for German animals, aren't they?

Date: 2007-06-05 12:26 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] lavvyan.livejournal.com
Bwahaha! Go me! ;p

Capital letters are important, period. You can never have enough of them. :/

Date: 2007-06-05 12:34 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] roadrunner1896.livejournal.com
ext_33206: (Diefenbaker)
You mean they are important EXCLAMATION MARK

(Seriously, I went insane last week with the constant spelling out of punctuation. It is all RayK's and Diefenbaker's fault EXCLAMATION MARK)

Date: 2007-06-05 01:48 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] roadrunner1896.livejournal.com
ext_33206: (Due South - Fraser/RayK)
Glad you agree EXCLAMATION MARK

Date: 2007-06-05 01:22 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
See, the thing s? I can do animal impressions. I do an awesome rooster (and cat and dog) and? they all fit.

Date: 2007-06-05 02:10 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] lavvyan.livejournal.com
Bet you won't beat my impersonation of a single woman who lives alone with her cat and hates other people, though. ;p

Date: 2007-06-05 02:25 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
Animal impressions. Animal. Uh, unless you've gone feral.

::backs away slowly::

Date: 2007-06-05 03:04 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] lavvyan.livejournal.com
Not really, no. But you probably shouldn't feed me.

Date: 2007-06-05 02:20 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] yin-again.livejournal.com
I can do an impression of elephants and/or monkeys. But only really, really loud.

Date: 2007-06-05 02:26 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
It's very hard to moderate those too. And horses. Also camels. And parrots.

Date: 2007-06-05 11:36 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] mishloran.livejournal.com
Ancient Greek frogs went "brekekekex, ko-ax, ko-ax".

I'm not sure if modern Greek frogs still follow that, though.

(I was going to answer this seriously, but okay maybe not ;))

Date: 2007-06-05 01:24 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
ko-ax? Dude. That is some complicated ribiting.

Date: 2007-06-05 01:28 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] mishloran.livejournal.com
Yeah, I reckon... Obviously they had classier more intelligent frogs back then?!!

Although, if you croak it out like c-oooh-AX and say it many times fast, then it does actually begin to sound like a noise which might have come from a frog?

Date: 2007-06-05 03:06 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] mishloran.livejournal.com
In addition! My little brother says JAPANESE frogs go "gero gero, or kero kero, or something like that". Apparently.

seriously weird ;-)

Date: 2007-06-05 09:44 pm (UTC)From: (Anonymous)
Modern Greek frogs still say the same thing - THEY understand a continuous culture, even if SOME scholars refuse to do so. *lips purse, eyes narrow*

Greek dogs say "ghav, ghav" - and, while the more pretentious feline will say "miaou," your average cat on the street will counter with "niaou."

BTW, love, love, love the Checkmate 'verse. Made me want to join lj, until the strikethrough thingyness, but I'm still thinking.

Eurydice

Re: seriously weird ;-)

Date: 2007-06-06 11:42 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
Eurydice, (what a lovely name! So classy)

Do join up, and just don't give'm any money.

And...

Date: 2007-06-05 12:57 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
French ducks go "coin, coin," which if pronounced correctly, is a lot closer than "quack, quack" to actual duckspeak.

[Thanks to my high school French teacher]

Re: And...

Date: 2007-06-05 01:30 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
Yup. I don't think they actually can say "k". They don't have the teeth to press their tounge against.

Re: And...

Date: 2007-06-13 10:10 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] blue-underwing.livejournal.com
ext_1408: Blue Butterfly (Default)
Ummm...
Sorry, I have to:

You don't need teeth to make a /k/ sound. It is a back stop, made by pushing the back of your tongue against your soft pallet. Say "cake" a few times, your tongue need never touch your teeth.

Re: And...

Date: 2007-06-13 10:24 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
You're right. But does a duck have a soft palate?

Date: 2007-06-05 01:21 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] chloe-tambell.livejournal.com
A Sri Lankan friend insisted that a wolf/dog howl is:

Kong Kong
or
Kang Kang

I can't remember which way, but it made sense when she pronounced it. It looks nuts on paper though.

Date: 2007-06-05 01:31 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
It do!

Uh, but no more than me having an actual discussion about this. :D

Date: 2007-06-05 02:14 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] rainne
rainne: (Default)
Meanwhile, back at Old Mac Ivanoff's collective farm in the great state of Russia (in Soviet Russia, field plows YOU!), rather than oinking, the pig says hrgu-hrgu.

Go figure.

Date: 2007-06-05 02:27 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
It sounds so inscrutable, somehow, and dissatisfied. Possibly waiting for his potato peelings to ferment.

Date: 2007-06-05 02:34 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] kaydee23.livejournal.com
Many many years ago NPR did a story about the sounds a dog, a cat, a chicken, a duck, a goose, a cow, a pig, a sheep, and a frog made around the world. It was so funny because most of them did not sound even close to the sounds we claim the same made in the English language.

I teased my French students all year this year asking them to make the cat sound or the puppy sound or the chicken sound. It was pretty funny.

Date: 2007-06-05 03:59 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] noelia-g.livejournal.com
ext_2619: Fred from Angel, reading a book. (DW: Doctor/Kitten OTP)
HEE.
Polish roosters go "Kukuryku"
Polish dogs go "Hau Hau" which should be read almost exactly like "How How".
Also, ducks say "Kwa kwa" which doesn't have the english 'w' sound, but rather 'v' or 'f' since it gets devoiced. and 'a' is long 'a', as in 'car'.
Pigs do "Kwik", the same sound in the middle.
Only cats are similar to the English onomatopeia, with their 'Miau' which should be pronounced similarily to 'Meow'.

I've been thinking about the whole thing a few times, actually. Especially when I learn that when you call a cat in Flamish, you say 'Pussy', but in Polish it's "Kici kici", which is pronounced with a soft 'c', similar to 'Gucci', but without the 't' in 'tch' pronunciation...

My puppy reacts both to 'come here' and Polish "chodz tu" which just shows how smart he is, and how insane I am, teaching my dog commands in two languages. :D

And yes, I did get into a phonetics discourse about animal noises. I should be institutionalised :D.

Date: 2007-06-05 04:21 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
But I love you so!!! And hey, I started it.

Date: 2007-06-05 04:56 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] titc.livejournal.com
Cocorico, yes. Bow wow, not so much, French dogs say "ouaf ouaf" (pronounce: "waf waf"). There's some "grrrrrrr"s in there too.
And I'll have you know pamplemousse is wonderful, way more than grapefruit which took me years to get because grapefruit has nothing in common with grapes, and I have to say, WTF?
No, really.
Raisin and pamplemousse are very different!
So there.
titC, froggie extraordinaire (and hey, extraoridnaire doesn't really mean the same in French & English! Whee!)

Date: 2007-06-06 11:46 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
I shall correct my barking, tout suite!
(Seriously, you're french? Cool!)

Date: 2007-06-07 08:31 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] titc.livejournal.com
Generally: tout de suite (and you can elide the 'e' of 'de' when speaking reasonably quickly), or de suite if you're from Southern France - but no elision of the 'e' here!
Yes, I'm French and I spend my free time reading gay pr0n in English

Date: 2007-06-07 08:34 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] titc.livejournal.com
...and hitting the wrong key and posting an unfinished comment.
Um.
I also watch gay TV shows and watch gay pr0n (see icon! join [livejournal.com profile] hazz_mat! /pimp) and am generally a fandom serial lurker, since the few stories I wrote were Star Trek:TOS and, well, a few years ago.
And I teach... English. Without the pr0n, I guess the pupils' parents wouldn't like it.

Date: 2007-06-05 07:09 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] jmchau.livejournal.com
pamplemousse! You said pamplemousse!

I love that word.

Date: 2007-06-05 08:54 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] gnomi.livejournal.com
Israeli ducks say "Ga ga!"

No, I'm really not sure why.

And, uh... hi. I just spent a good chunk of this afternoon reading every single story in the Checkmate 'verse and I absolutely adored it. I'm filled with love for kitty!John and his Rodney, and for Teyla and Heightmeyer and Ronan and Lorne and... well, everyone. I love how you keep John so *him*, even with the fur and all.

Date: 2007-06-06 11:41 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
Hi! Thank you for joining the madness, and I'm so glad you're enjoying the checkmate 'verse. I sure am having fun writing it!

Date: 2007-06-13 10:11 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] blue-underwing.livejournal.com
ext_1408: Blue Butterfly (Default)
And, uh... hi. I just spent a good chunk of this afternoon reading every single story in the Checkmate 'verse and I absolutely adored it. I'm filled with love for kitty!John and his Rodney, and for Teyla and Heightmeyer and Ronan and Lorne and... well, everyone. I love how you keep John so *him*, even with the fur and all.

Ditto :)

Date: 2007-06-13 10:22 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
Yay!

Date: 2007-08-05 12:21 am (UTC)From: (Anonymous)
Well Swedish roosters say: Kuckeliku
The dogs say Voff and the cats say mjau.
Pigs say Nöff witch I don't think makes much sense to you =P

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