Dog lovers are hoping that the rules in some of Paris’s rarefied green spaces will be loosened © Chesnot/Getty Images
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The covert operations begin as soon as my local Paris park opens for the day.
“Police down by the town hall entrance,” warns one message in a chat group with hundreds of subscribers. Others send snatched photos of park guards on the move.
The mission of this undercover network: letting dogs run around undetected. Every morning, corgis, spaniels and a host of other Parisian mutts make a break for it across the fields of one of the French capital’s larger green spaces in hilly Buttes-Chaumont. Their freedom carries a risk. Letting dogs off the lead is strictly forbidden. Owners who get caught face fines of at least €35, and there is no shortage of penalties. Last year a chihuahua was accused of “meandering by a dangerous animal” — the most common charge.
With strict restrictions on everything from transport to outdoor space in one of Europe’s most densely populated cities, the situation for the city’s estimated 100,000 dogs is becoming increasingly untenable, owners say. 
During municipal elections that concluded in March, their demands made it all the way to political headlines, with candidates including the Socialist victor Emmanuel Grégoire promising a shake-up. 
The problem is Paris is no longer the preserve of little lapdogs. Dogs of all breeds and sizes are more present in public spaces, says Loïc Amiot of “Nous les chiens de Paris” (We the dogs of Paris) — meaning there need to be rules of engagement.
Exclusion zones and punitive measures are the de facto policy — in part to counter the habitual disregard owners have for cleaning up their dog’s mess. Still, restrictions are harsher here than in other big cities such as London or New York, where Central Park has off-leash times. In Paris, most of the famed Luxembourg Gardens are off limits, even to dogs on leads; and only the smallest are welcome on buses, making it hard to get to forests outside town. 
Grégoire — who was part of the previous Socialist city hall administration responsible for the status quo — has said that he will review the situation and create more dedicated dog parks. But for now people have been responding to the restrictions in the most Parisian way of all: by ignoring the rules. 
“There are just not many places we can go,” says Thomas Puig, a resident of the 10th arrondissement who is walking with his American border collie Léon off the leash along the Canal Saint-Martin.
In his neighbourhood there are around 3,000 dogs and just one small dog park, which is next to a rubbish dump. It was moved here from a sunny spot further up the canal after neighbours complained about the barking.
“We didn’t use to bother anyone and we got it in the neck from people, so now we’ve decided to become a pain too — it’s the only way it works,” Puig says. 
As we walk we cross paths with municipal police who opt to turn a blind eye this time. But further along, there is a collection of newly minted “NO DOGS” signs next to freshly planted bushes.
Paris is a pressure cooker where there are always fights to be picked. A biking revolution, for example, has transformed mobility but also raised the number of conflicts between cyclists, pedestrians and drivers.
There are limits to what can be done, as even dog parks are imperfect solutions. One canine educator says she has come across some dogs who don’t even respond normally to their names because they’ve never been run around outside the confined spaces.
Dog lovers are hoping that the rules in some of Paris’s rarefied green spaces will be loosened: more morning slots for proper bounding about before 9am, which the Monceau park in the swish 8th arrondissement permits on some lawns in springtime.  
Until then they will keep letting their dogs off the lead and try not to get caught. “Morning walks used to be my favourite time. Now I’m on edge and dread bumping into police,” says Irish national Aoife, who moved near the Buttes-Chaumont roughly a year ago with Rua, a caramel-coloured long-haired collie, and has already been fined twice. The rules, she says, are just not doable. “I can’t have this dog on a lead 24/7.”

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Bring this to London! The amount of poorly behaved dogs and dogs owners needs to addresses - dog licenses to start with . The amount of dog excrement around London is staggering.
I remember reading here a very nice story about istanbul - the liberal districts were full of dogs, and those with hijabs were without dogs
Daunting fines - higher license fees - additional council tax charges equivalent to a person - additional water fee equivalent to a person - extra service charges for pet owners in buildings.
As someone who enjoys peeing on neighborhood doorsteps and taking my morning dump in the local playground, I have great sympathy for dog owners who don't know how to use a leash.
While the conduct of the city’s dogs is a fair topic for debate, it seems almost quaint to focus on four-legged nuisances when the broader erosion of Parisian civil order is far more weighted towards 2-legged animals.
The mental health epidemic in full display below.

Some here are in desperate need of getting laıd.
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Yes, because pets are what is making parts of Paris unrecognisable….
I have to agree with some of the comments below. What’s not to love about Paris? The dog poop of course. Distasteful as it may be to pick-up your dog’s feces, it’s even more distasteful to bring it home on the soles of your shoes. It’s the one negative about Paris. I’m glad the powers that be are trying to tackle the problem.
Paris used to be the kind of place where even stepping in dog mess could be taken with a bit of phlegm. The city had elegance, depth, and so much to offer that small annoyances barely mattered.
That balance feels harder to find today. In many areas, the atmosphere has shifted. You now see far more visible hardship, with people, recently arrived "asylum seekers", sleeping in the streets and public spaces under strain. The contrast with the city’s historic image can be striking.
Add to that the congestion, constant traffic, and a growing sense of disorder, and the experience feels less fluid than it once did. Expensive electric bikes weave through crowded streets, infrastructure feels stretched, and everyday frustrations seem to pile up....
Seems oppressive.

To the commenters, in my experience, across much of Europe picking up after your dog is now the norm in urban areas. There are even towns that require owners to carry a bottle with soapy water to pour over. Of course, this is not compatible with letting your dog run off-lead in all but areas designed for it. But clearly, in a city like Paris there cannot be dog parks close to everyone.

I imagine this will be a bit like cigarettes. Eventually smokers accept that imposing your smoke on others is in fact a big nuisance.
As noted by many comments below, the problem is not the dogs in Paris, it is the dog poo.
My friends tell me that my dog is a substitute for children...

But his piano teacher said that was nonsense!
Drive home the message that failing to pick up dog poo is an offence, and enforce this with stringent fines but let dogs run free unless they’re known to be aggressive or snappy (no reasonable pet owner wants to risk their animal attacking anyone, and most dog owners are reasonable despite what some of the sneering killjoys on this thread and elsewhere claim) . I have a dog in the UK and following decades of having the message drummed in, most people pick the poo up here. But when we go to France, Spain etc, green spaces and pavements are disgustingly awash with pet faeces. The Germans seem, when they do pick it up, to enjoy festooning bushes and trees with bags of poo, if Berlin parks are anything to go by. Even as a dog owner I find all this totally unacceptable. If Parisians etc want freedom for their pets, they in turn need to change their own behaviour and accept their responsibilities.
The French don’t pick up dog doo. It’s really horrid! It’s the same in ski resorts and beach promenades.
Big cities are not for humans and animals. They are for robots.
If dogs aren’t allowed in a city, then that’s a city of low lifes and criminals. Oh wait, Paris is already that. Guess it can’t sink any lower.
have more babies
Goodness me, too much vitriol against dogs! Dogs are our loyal friends & bring such joy. I am constantly stopped in the street by strangers asking if they can pet my dog. He makes a stranger’s day most days 😊. Agreed however that certain individuals do not deserve to own dogs. Cleaning up your dog’s mess is part of being a good dog owner & you should not leave a dog alone for hours at a time either.
It is very strange to see how different the rules are for dogs in different European cities, and the only explanation I can come up with are different histories. Apparently, cities do not even try to learn from each other. Paris is hell for dogs and their owners. Vienna is generally also very restrictive, with many parks off limit for dogs. There are great places were you can let them run free through, mostly along the Danube river and in the surrounding hills, although you always need to muzzle your dog if you bring them there. Munich is a paradise for dogs since they can run around everywhere and you can bring your dog free of charge in any means of public transport without muzzle. You hardly see dogs that misbehave and dog owners behave too, mostly cleaning up after their dogs. Why these sharp differences? You can make cities work for dogs and everybody else.
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The right question should rather be:
Do children belong in Paris?
Who cares about pets? Paris is running out of young people, and that is a far bigger problem.

The few parks and green spaces Paris has should belong to kids, not dogs.
The dog is never the problem. The problem is always the dog owner.
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Given far too many Parisians allow their dogs to defecate all over the incredibly limited green spaces that are used by tens of thousands of people, especially children, to play and relax, sadly the best bet would be to ban them from nearly all Parisian parks. The best parks already all have dog bans in place, and rightly so. TBH the fines can’t be large enough for Parisians that refuse to remove their dogs’ crap from Paris’s narrow pavements. It’s grossly antisocial.
Wouldn't the obvious solution be to punish the dog owners that don't clean up after their dogs? That works very well in many other European cities.
Ever tried to pick up a dog turd from a grassy children’s play area? No a ban from parks outside of fenced in designated dog areas is the only option
The French have serious issues, this is not one of them.
I am fully in favour of the restrictions. Paris has dog poo everywhere. Whatever measure can be taken to limit this is welcome! The city has limited greenspace which should be prioritised for humans!
Prioritizing humans means allowing them to have pets. Stop here for a moment to think about it. I mean it. Further, if dog poo is an issue, address it directly, for instance by punishing dog owners that fail to clean it up. That works very well in other cities.
A few dog poos can make a space unsafe for thousands of local people.
Barking mad
Paris is a great city for dogs - small ones at least. Whilst there as part of an extended driving tour our toy poodle was absolutely accepted everywhere, warmly. No problems caused by man or beast alike.

In fact the worst place for dogs in the whole of Europe is of course Britain. We have snooty rules about dogs (not just badly controlled dogs which of course should be corrected). We also have all sorts of other snooty rules like children not being allowed in restaurants at certain times or driving hierarchies, all which would be rightly seen as pompous, insane, or both across the great cultures of Europe.
erm, I am totally unaware of any snooty rules either about dogs or children except in the country too many people let their dogs off the lead when there are farm animals and the result is catastrophic. And these people would swear on their life that their pet would not attack an animal and yet it happens
Dog owners get too easy a ride, given that they are a tiny minority. For a start, dogs should be banned from all parks and beaches where kids play. I never stay in a hotel or guesthouse that advertises itself as pet-friendly. No doubt there are many others like me. Hotel owners, please note.
You're one of them. Like the people who complain about children in public spaces.
I'm happy with kids in public spaces. What I am really unhappy with is abusive behaviour of dog owners in allowing their animals to empty their bowels and bladders anywhere near where kids play, and there are plenty of owners like that in Madrid.
Perhaps in Madrid. My life experience in the UK is that bad dog owners are exceedingly less common than bad parents producing ferral youth, who are incomparably more dangerous and more prone to cause nuisance.

I am all for voluntary segregation. I never understood forced hoods of peoples beyond the logic of power, of which we should be past in the UK and most of Europe.

I am absolutely fine having ‘no dog zones’ with the condition that there will be dog zones in which under 25s without parental supervision or a dog are not allowed.

You will also find that the trend is ‘adult only’ hotels and restaurants, rather than ‘no pets’, and not because people dislike kids, but because of generally absent parenting.
Something needs to be done. It seems to be getting worse in Madrid and the entitlement from dog owners is shocking.

At what point did Western society decide it was OK to lock up animals in small flats in cities and let them defecate and urinate all over our streets and parks?

Dogs are fantastic animals but should not be kept in cities to satisfy their owners emotional needs at the expense of others and even the well-being of the dog.
Hear! Hear!
1/3 of the population owning dogs is a tiny minority?
I have nothing to say about the hyperbole which this discussion is clothed in by both sides, but I will remark that until recently, many streets in Paris suffered from regular smears of noisome dog muck. No longer. This is a pleasant development. I sympathise with stuff owners, but they seem unable to make sure that they manage their dogs.
Kenji Kobayashi for Mayor!
Many dog owners can't comprehend that their pets are not universally liked. They smile indulgently as their off-leash dogs jump up at people, bark at them, smell them, pee on them, make them wobble off their bicycles, etc etc. In Oxford University Parks recently I watched with enjoyment as two dog owners started to fight, following the example of their dogs. The woman dog owner with complete lack of irony appealed to me to take her side in the proceedings on the grounds that the Parks were surely established for dogs. She was then angry with me after I'd pointed out that the name University Parks suggested other priorities.
I think it's fair enough that in some places you've got to keep the dog on the lead but the fact we can't take our dog most places even on the lead is disgraceful
I personally think it's brilliant when dogs aren't around to disturb the rest of us. Keep them at home and exercise them in your space disturbing no one else or most importantly other wildlife
Have you ever considered that you might be considered a nuisance - on top of being intollerant and disagreable?
No, it's not disgraceful. It's to try to prioritise people in the allocation of open space – a reasonable aim.
Boo.
Letting dogs off the lead is strictly forbidden. .... Exclusion zones and punitive measures are the de facto policy — in part to counter the habitual disregard owners have for cleaning up their dog’s mess.
The rules have been set to the lowest common denominator. This would not have been necessary if dog ownership is more exclusive - keeping a dog properly is expensive, ubt keeping a dog irresponsibly is too affordable.
Dogs are loved like kids for people who have them. As a dog owner myself living in San Francisco, my general rule of thumb is any place that is good to dogs is a good for people. The characters of a dog loving place: ample green space and friendly people. My experience is 99% of dog owners clean after their dogs, and parks here also have bags and covered poop cans to help people keep the parks clean.
You are right. Let me just add that kids love dogs, and very much so. Once you let adults, kids, and pets live together in a city, all parties involved learn and get along just fine. Cleaning up after your dog (and kid, and yourself) is of course part and parcel of it. Does that have to be stressed? Not in livable cities, i would assume.
If a socialist mayor in Paris is for controlling dogs (and more importantly their selfish owners), might there be hope for NYC with its DSA Mayor??
Depends on whether the dogs vote for Republicans or a Jewish
That's not an either-or Chtou
If dogs voted, and were proven to have a rational mind, I doubt they would be voting to live in any city to begin with...
Chat Control and now.. Chien Control? What is becoming of France? Is there a color too many in the flag? Time to remove the L?
Dogs being allowed by their owners to shut everywhere, especially in Paris’s limited green spaces, makes them literally dangerous for small children, and grossly inconvenient at the least. A few selfish people remove the liberty of tens of thousands to use green spaces without fear of stepping or sitting in dog shut.
So why not just fine them for not cleaning up after their dogs then? Put up a few cameras and that should soon be sorted. The cameras should be there anyway for the safety of people.
I delivered newspapers as a kid after school. The following happened quite a lot, but one address in particular it was the daily norm. I'd neatly fold the newspaper and then push it into the letterbox. The newspaper would be suddenly snatched out of my hands with a considerable pull from behind the door and then I'd hear what sounded like a terrier dog shredding the newspaper to pieces. It sounded really violent. This happened every time I delivered the newspaper to this address. Goodness knows what was left of the newspaper by the time the customer got it.
Best thing for most newspapers.
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Quelle merde ces chiens!
Pute de chien. Bordel de Paris.
Dogs are haram anyway
First, Paris is a much much denser city than London. Second, is it not cruel to keep a dog in a flat? I also sometimes wonder if all the attention and love that dog owners put on their dogs were transferred onto fellow human beings that the world would be a better place – and more environmentally caring (no plastic dog poo bags to dispose of for starters). And why not go back to the days of a dog licence... if dogs are treated as humans by society, and cost local councils money, then dogs can pay taxes as well.
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You mean, no picking up after dogs defecate in public places? Surely that would be a non-starter, for reasons of public health alone?
if all the attention and love that dog owners put on their dogs were transferred onto fellow human beings that the world would be a better place
If I ran around Paris licking peoples' faces and rubbing their noses there'd be trouble I reckon.
Cycle lanes are built but cyclists do not pay taxes, contrary to car owners. In addition cyclists prefer to use the roads.
Shouldn't cyclists be charged for the cyclists lanes - where pedestrians are not tolerated?
Someone cycling rather than driving produces huge net benefits for society, in reduced noise, cost, pollution, less parking space usage, fewer accidents etc. Investment in cycling infrastructure produces massive benefits in cities.
Let's see who will pay when the cycling paths need repairs...
Um, cyclists do pay taxes. And vehicle taxes do not pay for the roads, free parking, and bad air that everyone else is forced to subsidize from their income taxes.
Do you seriously believe that tiny totals raised by vehicle taxes fund 100% of all road building and maintenance? Or that your contribution as a car owner gives you the right to dictate what happens with the millions of hectares of public land that roads cover?
Around here dog owners think their dogs belong everywhere.
Much as I like dogs, people shouldn't really be owning one that's bigger than a lapdog in the middle of one of the world's most densely populated cities. If you want to own a dog that was bred to hunt or herd, there are no shortage of places in the suburbs with big parks that have plenty of space for dogs to run around off-leash.

Aside from any nuisance these dogs might cause other park-goers, it's also not safe for them to be off-leash in these parks unless it's a fenced-off dog area. Virtually all Parisian parks have a number of open gates. Unless you're confident you can outrun a spaniel, there's no real way to stop one from darting out the gate and straight into traffic.
Yes there is: train them.
Exactly. Just visit other big European cities where dogs are well trained and behave accordingly. Munich is a case in point.
As a cyclist and a runner, I wonder if dog owners ever contemplate the danger a dog on the loose poses to others.
Dogs are pretty unpredictable, and avoiding a collision with one while cycling or running can lead to injury and property damage.
Another example where a little intelligence would go a long way. In my experience, cyclists and joggers travel a good deal faster than dogs, notably when coming from behind. That is indeed dangerous.
Once someone told me…

… as a pedestrian and a driver, I wonder if cyclists ever contemplate the danger a cyclist on the loose poses to others.
Cyclists are pretty unpredictable, and avoiding a collision with one while walking or driving can lead to injury and property damage.
Bravo:)
What about a child on the loose. Should children also be kept of leash to accomodate cyclists' needs? Honest question.
A dog ran out in the road in front of me when I was cycling several years ago. A Great Pyrenees, in this case. I separated a shoulder, a 'level 2' separation on a scale of 1 - 3, said the doctor. Very shortly afterward, the dog was no longer there.
In WW1 Briards were used by the French to roam the battlefields looking for fallen soldiers who were still breathing and might be saved. A debt sadly forgotten it seems.
We are clutching at straws there!
Or worse, trying to publicize my novel, Briard. But see, I didnt do it till provoked. Ha!
Excellent! I'll buy it. Thank you.
It's on Amazon and also Kindle though you'd be forgiven for joking. But my own Briard (my second) would be very grateful! I hate stereotyping dogs but like other Briards she is incredibly loyal but oddly also very independent. Maybe why Napoleon, Jefferson and reputedly Charlemagne also owned - no sorry were secretly operated by Briards.
I know, I have already found it and bought it😇.
After 2 springer spaniels, two abandoned dogs that we adopted, one of which we brought back from the Caribbean - pure madness, take my word - we now have two sheepdogs: not an inch of agressivity, just goodness on four legs.
My co-author Eve keenly awaits your review! Briards also sheepdogs of course but were left alone to watch over the flocks. Hence rather.... independent! But also very loyal. Strange and rather wonderful combination. Eve thinks she knows what's best for both of us...
She probably does, and so do my two four-legged friends.
Tell Eve she'll get my unbiased review, but I need to read the book first...
Lols, brandy soaked false memories of a golden era that never was
If only. I cant drink alcohol.
Dog owners seem to be totally selfish. They let their dogs off the leash when there are signs prohibiting them for very good reasons such as disturbing wildlife. I see it constantly. The arrogance is incredible. When you ask them to put their animal on a lead you get a volley of abuse. They also allow them to bark disturbing the environment. I don't play music in public for that reason why do they think it's okay to allow their dogs to bark? They bring them into shops and restaurants even supermarkets where it is illegal. Some shops ban them after allowing them in because they urinate and defecate on the stock! Owners are generally totally lacking in self-awareness. I thought there was an acceptance that keeping animals in captivity was cruel. If they actually talked to humans possibly they would get rid of the dog. They may find that a more productive relationship.
An astonishing level of ill informed vitriol and unsupported generalisations. About one third of uk households have a dog and the proportion is increasing. Dog and humans coevolved for tens of thousands of years and the idea that dogs are kept ‘in captivity’ like a tiger in a zoo is absurd. I live in a large town where dogs are welcomed in parks, pubs and many shops and the overwhelming majority of dog owners behave responsibly. The imperfect evidence in UK suggests maybe 15% of people are ‘uncomfortable’ around dogs. You’d obviously be part of the group - but your concerns would be more likely to be heeded if they were less wild and better tempered.
There's good evidence we settled down because dogs kept watch, and some evidence we learnt to hunt in teams from them. I dont know where we'd be without them, but it certainly wouldn't be here. So yes, and my own theory, fwiw, is we have an atavistic sense of loyalty and gratitude.
You really should put that backwards (literally) book in the bin
Not sure if it's changed in the couple of years since my last visit, but Paris streets are filthy - seemingly nobody cleans up after their dogs.
It's the same in all French cities. Toulouse has the famous Dog Poo Bridge
Having your dog on a leash doesn't stop a dog from doings its business.... The answer is dog bags....
Dog nappies is the answer. Even with doggie bags some poop is left on the path/grass
Sadly, it has not changed. And I doubt it will ever change.
I live in Paris. In my neighbourhood, many people clean up after their dogs, but not all. Dog s**t makes my blood boil, especially when I see little children, pushchairs and elderly people with walking sticks navigating their way around it.
same here!
can confirm it hasn’t changed. it’s actually
gotten worse as the number of dogs has increased!
I was going to say the same thing. How are Parisiens not deeply embarrassed and ashamed that their otherwise lovely city is covered in dog poo?! It's horrible.
Too posh to pick it up
One of the things that strikes me is the dog poop issue. We are apparently living in the golden age of drones, robotics, and AI - yet we can't invent a robot to pick up dog poop. Seems absurd.
You're supposed to pick it up yourself.
No need - just a matter of consideration and tolerance - both by dog-owners to the rest and vice versa. Oh, and it helps not to train you children to grow up terrified of everything on four legs.
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One of the big differences I noticed returning to live in Aberdeen, Scotland after 22 years living in Edmonton, Canada was related to dogs. In Edmonton you hardly ever see dogs of leash. Certainly not in public parks, except in certain off leash areas. First day back in Aberdeen I go to the Duthie Park and I'm horrified to see dogs off leash running everywhere. And, to make matters worse, one very large dog did its business in the middle of a grassy area used by kids for football, etc, and the owner didn't even pick it up.

I grew up in a council house area and it wasn't uncommon as a kid to be chased by antisocial dogs. Once, I was forced to climb a lamppost to avoid being mauled by a large, untrained dog. Surely this is absolutely ridiculous. It's about time we clamped down on this crazy pet-dog cult.
Hard to imagine there’s no room in Edmonton for the occasional dog.
FT tackling the important questions... my opinion is that cats are for cities and dogs are for suburbs/rural areas. whenever i see a big dog walking around downtown in mid-summer on superheated sidewalks my heart aches.

conversely cats are made to curl up in apartment windows and be ogled at by passersby
What green spaces in Paris? There is so little grass in their parks
Parisians do not deserve dogs.
Dogs don’t deserve Parisians,
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The difference between how dogs behave in cities and how they behave in the countryside where they can freely run should make any urban dog owner reconsider whether getting a dog with an apartment is a good idea.

Also, please don't sublimate your wish for having children into getting a dog.
Any dog who freely runs n the countrysse where I grew up would be promptly shot or poisoned.
And probably eaten afterwards.
Hopefully not eaten if poisoned.
Depends which countries.
In Hanoi for sure :-)
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Same feeling, dog in town is so selfish.

But not necessarily linked to child. Many families with children also have dogs.
Why is it selfish, would you care to explain?
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For the very reason explained above. Dogs cannot move freely in a parisian flat or street. So ignoring basic animal need is indeed VERY selfish.
So, draw inspiration from the Brits - and try to be a tiny bit more tollerant towards people that do not share your anthipaties.
Working dogs n the countryside are under very close control - they have to be with so much livestock around. City dogs have a lot of fun sniffing arses, getting petted, patrolling the neighbourhood, and generally socialising.
Dogs should be under close control. But they can be territorial and have been known to savage people on public footpaths that are close to their owners' homes.
Following humans example then...
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Indeed, when humans encourage dogs to defend them and to protect their property, we can hardly expect the dog to know where their own land ends and the public land begins.