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Tesla has agreed to buy assets of embattled German engineering group Manz as the US electric vehicle maker expands its footprint in the European market despite plummeting sales in the region.
Under the deal, Tesla Automation, the group’s automation technology arm, will take over more than 300 employees, plant and equipment at Manz’s site in Reutlingen after the German group entered insolvency proceedings following a sharp deterioration in Europe’s battery market. The companies did not disclose terms of the transaction.
The purchase comes as Tesla faces a sharp sales decline in Europe and as its billionaire chief Elon Musk has stepped up his high-profile interventions in the region’s politics.
The electric-vehicle maker sold just 9,900 units in Europe last month, a decline of more than 45 per cent from the same period in 2024, according to data from the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. Its overall share of new car registrations fell to 1 per cent from 1.8 per cent over the same period.
Registrations of new Tesla vehicles in Germany, which hosts Tesla’s only manufacturing plant in Europe, plunged 59.5 per cent from a year earlier in January.
Tesla’s shrinking market share follows Musk’s unprecedented foray into EU politics, where he backed the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) ahead of the country’s elections on Sunday, sparking a backlash on the continent. Musk has also railed against the EU, which he described in November as “undemocratic”.
Alice Weidel, the co-leader of the AfD, said on Monday that Musk had personally congratulated her as the party doubled its vote to its highest share of about 21 per cent.
Automotive analysts have said that another factor behind Tesla’s sales drop could be that consumers were waiting for the upgraded Y model, scheduled for the first half of 2025.
Matthias Schmidt, a car analyst, said Tesla sales also faced a tough comparison with those in January last year, when numbers were boosted by a revamp of the carmaker’s Model 3.
He added: “There’s no getting past the fact though that the January numbers are incredibly disappointing and could start to suggest a migration away from the brand to alternatives to Tesla.”   
People close to the company have also blamed the higher EU tariffs on imports of EVs from China. Tesla is suing the EU after Brussels imposed anti-subsidy tariffs of up to 7.8 per cent in October, although that was much lower than levies of up to 35.3 per cent on other Chinese electric vehicle imports produced by other carmakers.
In France, Tesla sales were down 63 per cent, while registrations of Tesla cars in Norway fell 38 per cent. In the UK, registrations declined 8 per cent from a year earlier.
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Tesla sales hit across Europe

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Annual % changeUnit sales-63.4-63.4-59.5-59.5-44.3-44.3-37.9-37.9-7.8-7.81,1411,1411,2771,2774054056896891,4581,458
The fall came even as European consumers purchased 166,000 battery EVs for the month, up 37 per cent from a year ago. Pure EV sales grew faster than those of all other types of vehicles, while sales of cars with petrol and diesel engines fell 20.5 per cent and 26.5 per cent, respectively.
The figures cover the EU, UK and other markets including Norway, one of Europe’s biggest markets for EVs.
European sales by SAIC Motor, the Chinese state-backed carmaker that has expanded into the EU and partnered with Audi in China, rose 37 per cent to 23,000 vehicles in January, among the largest year-on-year increases in sales of any big manufacturer in the region.
Overall new vehicle registrations on the continent fell 2.1 per cent in January to 995,271.

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Anyone buying a Tesla today needs to factor in that it may only be worth scrap value in two years time. Four more years being associated with chaos and division will not help the brand.

People driving a Tesla now look about as stylish as Alan Partridge after a graffiti attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgA3Mttx1M

Tesla used to have a virtual monopoly but now loads of choice, their range is looking tired and build quality not great v Hyundai and some of the Chinese - that's the main reason - Musk-aversion secondary, I suspect
Trump is removing EV chargers from public buildings. Will Tesla switch to internal combustion engines as rumored?
Note: In addition to the factors behind declining sales mentioned in the article, this one should also be highlighted: consumers are wondering who is leading Tesla to address issues such as the severely lacking after-sales service.
EV's popularity fell in general in Europe. But I am really astonished about how an article about declining sales of cars can lead to mentioning a German political party. Poor journalism.
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Poor journalism.
It is perfectly relevant. People are calling Teslas “Swasticars”. That’s bound to have a negative impact on sales. Even if Musk’s fascist salute and outspoken support for the said political party gained him some new fans, the said fans don’t believe in climate change and are more likely to be diehard ICE “drill baby drill” kind of people and therefore not too likely to fork out tens of thousands of Euros just to prove they really like Ketaman.

Therefore the whole circus is detrimental to Swasticar sales.
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Always have been a bit suspect of Tesla build quality since I saw a boot hinge mechanism, can't remember which model. Just a few bits of pressed steel like you would see from a car made in the 70s.. compared to premium models it looked very DIY.
It always had this Homer Simpson car vibe to it.

And then there’s the stoopid handles. Why reinvent what works perfectly?
This is just opening the door for more trouble. The sale to Tesla should be blocked.
Open Season for European assets?
“Tesla is suing the EU after Brussels imposed anti-subsidy tariffs of up to 7.8 per cent…” Hmmmm now who was it said “tariffs is a most beautiful word”???
Ketaman may end up rueing the day he teamed up with Tariffman.
The US bailed out Musk with grants, subsidies, & contracts: he is heavily subsidized with state and federal tax credits.
Elon Musk has received $22 billion for SpaceX contracts.
Plus $10.7 billion by selling ZEVs i.e. zero emission vehicle credits to other automakers
The majority of his cars are made in China. Tesla=Chinese.

God bless Europe for pushing back on a billionaire bully.
The US needs an old fashioned T party: dump em
No Representation without Taxation!
The US has been propelled into a ten year lead in the space race thanks to SpaceX.
The US has the largest, highest volume and most profitable EV manufacturer on the planet thanks to Tesla.
Tesla has a strategic objective of being as vertically integrated as possible and to manufacture it products using locally produced components and subassemblies which is why it will be the least impacted by tarifs.
God bless Germany for producing the largest number of EV’s of any country in Europe.
Tesla's Shanghai Gigafactory currently produces more vehicles annually than its U.S. factories.
The Chinese EV market is by far the biggest globally.
These employees will get their 5 bullet points emails at the weekend.
Well the Tesla shares are collapsing
That's what nobody reports
When his paper fortune goes up they all trumpet "richest man on earth"
When he goes bankrupt please tell us .
Many smiles will appear amongst those who hate fascist agitators .
Not collapsing. TESLA is still worth $ 1 trillion after today's correction.
When the entire VW Group, GM, Ford or Stellantis are worth not even 50 billions.
Lol !

Dont worry for Tesla they are retooling their facturies for the new Model Y.
They willl continue to chew up the car market because the make far superior products.

I own a 2024 Model S Plaid and a GT3. I am not racist.
The two best cars on the road today.
14% down in 5 days = collapsing. Lol!
I am missing in the article, what benefit Tesla sees in buying Manz‘ assets? And do they buy all or just part of the group‘s assets?
This FT journalist has not clue. He just wanted tot rash on Tesla.
Without knowing much about it. We should prohibit DEI and woke journalism.
And bring back high IQ journalists.
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By meddling in German politics he gave away 79% of his market to preference 21% AfD voters. With Tesla's stock price down only ~14% it's surprising more stockholders aren't bolting for the doors - it's not going to improve.
The idea that Musk’s political dabbling in Germany slashed Tesla’s market by 79% is laughable. Sales dips aren’t because he’s courting AfD voters :Tesla’s been retooling factories worldwide for the new Model Y, and that takes time.

Therefore hundreds of thousands of TESLA Model Y buyers are waiting for the refreshed version hitting lots in March and April. This is basic industry logistics, not a grand political conspiracy.

As for the stock, a 14% dip is hardly panic-worthy when production’s about to scale up. Maybe try understanding manufacturing timelines before spouting nonsense. This FT’s comment section is a circus. I excpecting more from such premium financial newspaper.
not so sure about that… but I guess we’ll soon find out once the new Model Y is released;)
Yes you said all that in a previous reply, no need to repeat it.

Care to explain why the stock price would fall 14% just before a new model is about to launch? Not because the majority of voters wouldn't be seen dead driving a Musk product?
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TESLA is still worth $ 1 trillion after today's correction.
When the entire VW Group, GM, Ford or Stellantis are worth not even 50 billions.

Look at Tesla stock history. It has always been extremely volatile because most Tesla investors have not much clue about what they are doing, like most Stock Investors.

This volatility is always great news for the well advised people who use fundamental knowledge instead of emotions. Yes Tesla could drop more, much more. But i bought it in 2019 when I first test drove my first Model 3 Performance at $15.-

Tesla has made massive amount of profits for long term investors and will - most likely - continue to do so.

Think FSD, Cybercab and Optimus Robots. Plus the fact that it is the auto company with the smallest amount of debt ($12 billions) relative to BYD 45 billions and the VW Group plus 200 billions. Tesla is the only EV company that makes a profit on every car sold. When all the others loose between $15'000 to 70'000 per cars sold. The legacy car OEMs are getting closer and closer to their Kodak moment.
It sells on a forward PE of 111 and a price/sales of 12.
These numbers are unsustainable for what is, at the end of the day, a car company.
Sell.
The brand matters and the brand is massively tarnished. I am someone who Tesla would target, and to be fair I would have considered buying one a few years ago. I wouldn’t even consider it now, regardless of the quality of the new model. I know many like-minded people.
Check the price today
You really must be one of the duped .
I got it at $15 in 2019 bro. So dont worry for me. :)
Sadly you still comment.
I expected more from a " premium " Tesla cult member .
The reason Tesla's sales are down in Europe is glaringly obvious to anyone with even a basic grasp of the auto industry—something this FT journalist clearly lacks.
Tesla has been ramping up production of the refreshed Model Y globally, and retooling factories isn’t an overnight process.

Hundred of thousands of the brand new TESLA Model Y buyers are simply holding off for the updated version, set to roll out in March and April. This isn’t some grand mystery or a sign of Musk’s political adventures tanking the company—it’s standard manufacturing logistics.

Maybe stick to finance, FT, and leave the industry analysis to people who actually understand production cycles. What a joke. Probably a good idea to end your woke and DEI journalism.
Market seems to disagree with your analysis. The reality is that ever more alternatives for Tesla are and will become available, and a large majority of Europeans (and, I think, now also Americans) don’t like (the latest version) of Elon Musk and don’t want to encourage his behavior by buying his company’s cars.
Hohoho
Bet on the wrong horse did you ?
Not if you used some skills in testing a new Model 3 Performance in 2019, bought this most incredible car and loaded on the stock at $15.-
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Are Manz employees about to get an email from the big man himself asking them what they did last Sunday to help select the lucky few taken onboard ?
Simply, business and politics don't blend well.
Tesla stock is down 9% today.

Where is the FT headline and comment from FatTonyStark?
Hope this means I get my new model Y earlier
And cheaper. You can drive a bargain.
You buying a swasticar?
Is this article about Tesla buying Manz (as the title suggests) or about Tesla’s sales drop?
So twisted and false article. This journalist has no clue of the auto industrial processes and the fact that Tesla has been retooling all it factories worldwide for the new Model Y.

End wokism and DEI in journalism please. It gives all serious people a headache.
Are you Elon or just his son X?
Is this drop in sales partially due to them stopping production of model Y whilst they start to produce the new upgraded model? Just wondering if there are any business reasons outside of Musk being a tool.
Really, it's just so stupid. Why, why, why alienate the people who will buy your product? Are the MAGAs buying EVs? No. It's coastal liberals who buy EVs. And they will make their choice felt.
Wait until you see Tesla sales in Canada!! I aactually can't believe ANYONE in Europe or Canada would buy a Tesla.... new or used..... It's akin to wearing a red MAGA hat
We all do.
Teslas are the best cars in the world by FAR.
The product sells, you'll see. Even if yes, quite a few people will go else where.
There is still much oportunies for Elon Musk and his incredible cars.
Hats off Elon ! :)
Great news.
Hope the company folds. Then it’s workers can buy it and turn it into the people’s car.
How is it possible that the KING OF EV's, SOLAR POWER, BATTERIES, etc - Elon Musk - is the KING OF THE MAGA CULT even though this cult hates EV's, Solar and batteries?
How can the head of cutting WASTE FRAUD AND ABUSE not write a check to the US taxpayers reimbursing them for the $20-billion-plus in government contracts, subsidies and tax breaks?
Ah. Alternative facts.
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Well, while I despise Musk and what he has recently said and done, you seem to be falling into the trap that if someone believes in one thing that the tribe thinks they have to believe in everything the tribe thinks. It is possible to be left wing and be skeptical of climate change and right wing and endorse it. In fact I rather admire people who have views across the political spectrum as it demonstrates that they think for themselves.
It is not possible to be left wing or right wing and be sceptical of climate change because climate change is based on science, not political whim. If I’m wrong, then what’s the political view on quantum entanglement or the latest techniques in neurosurgery?
This deal should be blocked. Tesla is well known element of the enemy’s financing infrastructure. In fact the German government should seize Tesla’s assets as soon as the enemy has landed in Greenland.
The enemy won’t be landing in Greenland.
No? Why not?
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Not sure the launch of model SS next year will help sales either.
lol!
Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL will probably be first in line to buy one with a custom made paint job that reads "Friend of Israel" on the side of the car.
Available in black only?
When bankruptcy comes ,probably .
Why would Europeans buy cars from the Nazi enemies of our democracies. Anyone who owns a Tesla should sell it while they still can.
I know two people doing just that!
Yes, but to whom?
Somebody used a 🪚 on Tesla European sales.
Hybrid is where its at.
Good purchase Tesla. Sales will come back with a vengance as soon as all the political noise subsides.
Personally I regard Nazi salutes as more than "political noise", but each to their own.
Musk has always specialized in extorting founders of distressed tech assets.

That's how he took over Tesla, SpaceX, Boring co, and of course Twitter.

It's his M.O. while he sells his image as an "innovator" and "entrepreneur".
He slightly overpaid for Twitter, hehehe.
This suggests good business sense
Only to a psychopath.

There is no issue with finding deals. Turning it into a myth and claims of self greatness is anything but good business sense.
Teslas don't look that great vs other EV's.....
They’re hideous
Model S looked good 10 years ago, now it’s just looking its age.
Model 3 just reminds me of the Chrysler Neon of the early 90’s.
Don't be so kind !
Musk isn't !
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Tesla share price 8% down today at the time of writing. Tee hee!
back of the envelope calculations look like the CEO won't have a pot to pi$$ in at around $210, but it's been a fun ride so far, luckily he has a few DOGE coins to keep him in retirement, which is more than the rest of us will be left with after the Trump apocalypse
Elon will demand the losers at the Manz Group tell him the 5 great things they did before the fall of their company, then he will fire them, demote them or cut their pay, telling them how lucky they are to now work for the wonderful company of Tesla. These people are so lucky to have Tesla save them. Tesla sales are crashing across the globe, well done Elon. Your shareholders will be very impressed moving forward. Keep up the great maga work.
If your working theory is that the decline in Tesla sales is due to a moral rejection of Elon Musk, then what are we to make of the big increases for the CCP-backed SAIC?
People boycott Israel but buy iPhones. No guarantee that people are uniform in their moral condemnation of things.
I think it’s because Elon has a very slapable face and choosing one of the other plethora of EVs now on the market is a very easy way to feel like you’re giving him a slap

The CCP much less so & so much is made in china anyway.

Arguably if the USA doesn’t respect a rules based international order and is actively siding with Russia then how is buying from them any better than buying Chinese
It isn't !
Musk has become toxic to most consumers in Europe. Especially to the ones who could afford a Tesla. (Hint: they're mostly not AfD supporters...)
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BMW EV Sales In Europe Jumped 36% In January 2025.
May both of these trends (Tesla down, BMW up) continue.

European manufacturers have already caught up. Soon BMW’s Neue Klasse EVs and Mercedes’ CLA will be released, and all signs point to them being mighty.
Good luck selling those trumped up golf carts to rural Americans !
Noone mentioning economic downturn in Europe ?
EV's are expensive
Leapmotor T03 available for under 20k Euros...
Chinese - assembled at a Stellantis plant in Poland.
LFP battery - a small four seater town car with a reasonable range.
When will the ticker be renamed to NAZI?
Tesla's share price is down 7% today and its market cap is now less than a trillion. A straw poll of these comments might suggest everyone is selling before February's car sales are published...
Well it’s good to see the title of this piece has been updated from focusing on a one month drop in sales (due to this Saturdays sales launch of the new best selling Tesla Model Y) and now focuses on a strategic purchase Tesla has just made in Germany. This purchase will enable Tesla to accelerate the expansion of their Berlin plant to produce the Model 3 for the local market and ramp up battery cell production and perhaps the new smaller model.
Manz seem to have hit liquidity problems as a result of the big three in Germany consolidating on last century’s technology and boosting their ICE vehicle investments at the expense of their BEV investments. A short term mistake that Tesla are about to capitalize on.
Demand for Teslas in Europe is dead. Good luck expanding factories....
Let’s see if the new Model Y will be the best selling EV in Europe again for 2025
EU should demand Tesla is sold to a European entity in order to remain operational in Europe. A strict 30 day deadline, otherwise the cars are to be banned from the European roads.
With that the US security guarantee will also be banned in 30 days and Emperror Putin will rule over all of Europe except Greenland.
so ? The emperor is dead, long live the emperor ....
Yes and by the way Trump is German.
We know what your security guarantee is worth and we know what the Russian army has achieved in Ukraine. Answer to both is nothing. Get your meatheads out of Europe.
We want to and told you that for a decade now. Your leaders keep begging us to stay. Why is that.
I just don’t want a car that is a political statement
agree, only a testosterone statement
no, I just want one that doesn't break or give me issues to deal with

ideally one that doesn't attract any attention either

give me a toyota anyday please
Did all the Guardian & Reddit commentators get misdirected to this comment section? Such childness on display. If you believe that a car, or any other material object you own, defines who you are as a person, you need to have a long look in the mirror.
And whilst you're there, reflect on how the device in your hand was constructed or the origins of that lovely German car you buy. Simply silly.
I think in this instance, given the CEO of said car company seems keen on throwing Nazi salutes and destroying the US government, I'd say buying one of his cars since all of this has happened DOES reflect on you as a person... You are either willfully blind to this, or need to read a history book and reflect on the kind of person you are giving money to, and then see how that sits with you.
In our society of consumerism, everything that we own characterise us. From the nazi car, to the fair trade products.
The problem for Tesla as a brand is that, previously, they profited from certain consumers viewing the product as identity-preserving ("I can be environmentally conscious but still drive"), so they're particularly vulnerable tensions in one's identity that might arise ("I'm not a far-right AfD supporter, so should I drive a Tesla?"). Like it or not, some people do think this way. Otherwise branding wouldn't be very valuable.
Hopefully the insolvency will prove to be contagious…
Elon, what did you do last week???
5 bullet points please, or else…..
This week I 'ave been mostly doing ... Ketamine.
He told his son to put his booger on the resolute desk.
He claims he plays Diablo 40 hours a week, so his bullet points would probably be lies.
Schadenfreude!
May be all the rightists of this world, who previoulsy swore to stick to ICE, will rush to Tesla, while liberal go to other EV competitor. Would be a great accelerator of energy transition ;)
Excellent insight! That’s exactly what happened in Orange County, California!
The rightwingers are not really into electric and eco cars... they are mostly petrolheads.
It does not take a genius to realise that.
Hate is much more powerful than love in brand politics.
Just imagine if Musk had stayed out of politics - the AFD might have won and Tesla would be selling more cars!
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Perhaps he wants to go down in history as a modern day Alexander Matrosov who threw himself on top of a German Nazi’s machine gun?
Figures.
Share price is dropping like titanic! Nearly as quickly as the car is depreciating. These cars will have zero resale value shortly. You'd be mad to buy one even if you love Elon!
Once that battery is on it's way out, nobody wants that car ..... My runabout is nearly 20 years old and going strong thanks....
how many workers will be fired, how many will just decide to quit.

that's the question I want to know
Buy something less associated with Nazism, like a Volkswagen
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ever heard about Magda Quandt ? or her son Harald ?
I think that was meant to be a joke
Indeed, company reputation is redeemable. It did not take long for VW after WW2. If Tesla brings out useful small and cheap EVs with good software, yeah, I'm afraid the sales figures will quickly go up again
Not as long as Musk is involved. VW after the war was not lead by Nazis anymore.
or Ford or Opel or ...
long list of corporates and banks who collaborated with nazi germany. Someone wants a Fanta ?
by the way Hugo Boss is big in Israel (Delta Galil), go figure human psyche ...
Crash and Burn bit like their cars .
It's highly anecdotal but watching the school runs here in Kensington and Chelsea, Teslas have gone from being virtually 20% to being difficult to spot, having been largely replaced by BMW, Audi, Porsche and the cheaper Kia and BYD e-models. I think partly because Teslas look like 20 year old designs and of course the Musk-Ratner effect.
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Plus people don't want EVs anymore. It's 99% fleet now and I'm thinking the K&C crowd aren't your average company car driver.

Tesla amongst the rich were a fad. EVs are failing to sell retail across the board everywhere.

Unlike companies, people can't write off the vast depreciation and VAT EVs suffer versus ICE cars against tax

And that's before you get into the fact they just aren't practical
Bless you for your persistence.
Truth is a gift
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The facts show that people do want EVs. From the Brexit believer.
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The facts show otherwise.

Ask BMW, Stellantis, Ford, Honda, Toyota etc all have backed off from production.

Yeah. Everyone really wants EVs

🤡
I'm not sure why you feel you have to defend Tesla. Four years ago they had a great range of EVs, now not so much. They also had a great USP in their superb rapid-charging network. That moat is now filled in. The much vaunted expensive auto-driving feature takes so much supervision that it's far less stressful to just drive yourself.
Meanwhile back in Mordor the Lada refresh has been launched with a hole in the bumper for the starting handle and trafficators - on both sides.
Arrogance comes before the fall
Musk doesn’t much care what happens at Tesla. It has served its purpose well. Starlink and xAI are his core ambitions - once he’s nailed both, game, set and match for Elon. Then he will become CEO of America Inc and Chair of global Inc given he will control the gateway to global comms and intelligence. He’ll by then probably change the name of planet Mars to another name comprising four letters and beginning with M.
You forgot neuralink, that is how he will control everyone and turn them into fuel cells and Keanu Reeves will have to come back.
Must be an awful lot of Tesla owners pinning their hopes on a battery-recharge fire so they can make an insurance claim.
The models are out of date and old, Chinese competition is biting, and Musk is the new Gerald Ratner. In sum, huge discounting of Tesla's can be expected this spring.
You ❤️ CCP
Musk ❤️ CCP. After all it is a huge market for him.
actually I like EVs from BMW and Audi, but just my personal taste.
This is GREAT!
Tesla’s board must be delighted…
Toxic brand for half of population. Extremely bad brand management.
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Pretty sure 90% of that 50% doesn't give a cr@p

EVs aren't selling across the board. It's not just Tesla
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You didn't read the article. EV sales in Europe are up 37%. Petrol cars are down 20%.
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No they aren't real-world stats.

The turnover is just fleet renewing, they ditch most EVs at a huge tax write off after 3 years and buy a new one 👇

BMW puts brakes on EV production at Mini Oxford – blames slow electric car sales

Plans for electric Mini production shelved indefinitely
Plant Oxford was due to begin EV production next year
A slowdown in European EV sales blamed


Big manufacturers don't walk away from a £600m investment for something that's growing 37% a year.

It's all fleet driven by vast tax breaks
Elmo thanks you for your service
Brexit!
Right? Tesla, like Twitter before it, had a great brand before Musk came along. "Tweeting" had nearly entered the lexicon the way "Googling" has.
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Doesn't change the fact that Tesla, like all EV manufacturers are running out of steam.

Just picking Telsa out shows political bias/activism
Bro ALL car sales are down. Can FT print anything else besides openly hating a chainsaw-wielding, South African polygynist spaceman? My God!
He's never been in space

Rocket Man is better
The point is, relatively speaking, TSLA is obviously being shunned amongst EVs. You can try all you like to put lipstick on a pig, but TSLA is done.

No hyperbole and fantasy claims about the future from Musk is going to wash any more. It's done. Over.
Hooray. Tesla are junk and I am personally delighted that this drug addled beneficiary of the slave trade and brother of his own step-mum is being roundly rejected by decent folks.
$100 on its way
Best news so far this week. Tesla is now a fascist brand.
Take your meds
Musk has been having a spasm of "Ratner moments"....
A one-way street - you don't recover from them.
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EVs are dead in the water. Every week there are industry headlines like this.

BMW puts brakes on EV production at Mini Oxford – blames slow electric car sales
  • Plans for electric Mini production shelved indefinitely
  • Plant Oxford was due to begin EV production next year
  • A slowdown in European EV sales blamed

Funny how its Tesla that gets the headline huh

Not a coinky-dink, is it FT
I just bought one.
If EVs are dead in the water - how come Stellantis and Leapmotor are building a factory in Hungary to build an under 20k Euro, four seater BEV with a respectable range?
Yea that’s right sure. We’re all just waiting for the updated Y Model.
Good... there are alternatives. No need to buy or use anything that enriches that man.
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Wait till you see who makes money off the rest of the stuff you buy
I drive a lot of EVs at work. I have found the Tesla to be the pick of the bunch.
Sure, buddy
The anti Musk brigade hard at work I see

Seriously, do you lot get told to write this stuff or is it just instinctive activism?
Do you speak for the entire Putin/Musk team?
No we're not waiting for the upgraded Y model, the decline is real and permanent.
EVs generally
EVs are UP 37%. You didn't read the article.
Ah, I see that we are still struggling with reading...
No not EV's generally, the chinese ones are up big time in case you missed the news.
Yay!
Thankfully no headwinds in the US where the president is fully behind electri... oh dear.

If the company trades at a big multiple of earnings, doesn't this also multiply declines in earnings?
At last some good news
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Europe is not democratic! 😂. But buying the US election obviously is… And he seems ok with Russia’s “democracy” What could be more democratic than Europeans choosing not to buy Teslas?
Automotive analysts have said that another factor behind Tesla’s sales drop could be that consumers were waiting for the upgraded Y model, scheduled for the first half of 2025.
Great, now it will be easy to identify the fascist supporters with their brand new post Dodge swasticars
As thou shalt sow, so shalt thou reap.
Or because people wait for new model y
I think not. A colleague told me this morning that her relatives have had a go at her for owning a Tesla. Elon has set fire to Tesla sales in Europe. I doubt the brand can recover.
So if I buy a new Tesla, will I now be disinvited from polite circles? Are my car choices now an expression of my politics?

I lament that everything almost without exception has become political.
No
Simply everybody can see how dumbyouare
Doh. Almost no consumer goods are political. Guess who made it so? And yes, if you buy one now you are making a political statement. But that was Musk's choice to make it so.
Although one's car choices have pretty much always been a reflection of one's politics. As a child I remember that having a Citroen 2CV or Renault 4 would suggest you were perhaps a Green voter, a Volvo might say you voted Liberal, a Jaguar or Rover, perhaps Tory, a Vauxhall usually marked you out as Labour. Obviously the marques and stereotypes have changed over the years, but I don't believe the connection has disappeared completely.
I know, it's just so lamentable that we're seeing nazi salutes being thrown at political rallies, and the same person is firing federal employees seemingly at random and ransacking the country's fiscal data, and getting head of agencies investigating his business fired, and as a result this behaviour is being acted upon by consumers and others who SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

So yes, choosing to associate yourself with that brand and by extension the regime he is part of, you will be judged. And found to be on the wrong side.

Slowly, as if to a child, everything IS political in this context - how can it not be?
Nobody forced him to raise his hand that way. He did that all by himself.
This is most true where there is real choice. It is never 'necessary' or even 'important' to buy a Tesla.
People who can afford a Tesla and might be inclined to buy one are likely to be comparatively well informed, concerned about climate change and aware of the links established by Musk.
That puts them in a very specific cohort in a market with plenty of choice,
By their wheels you will know them.
Boycott Bro!
... and falling.
Why did Tesla sales hardly drop in the UK?
I find this a baffling omission in the article.
According to Tesla.com deliveries of the new Model Y don’t start until June in the UK. Probably because it’s RHD. For the LHD countries deliveries start on Saturday. Obviously this important point will not be in the piece as it would detract from the narrative.
Don’t buy a Swasticar
My wife was dreaming of Tesla for years. Last year she decided to buy one. But Elon started his political carrier she has changed her mind and bought BMW EV. We are picking it this week.
Will be interesting to see, if shareholders start to file complaints about Musk`s support of far right parties. It`s pretty obvious that this is hurting Tesla sales.
Haha. How naive! You think the thumb twiddling board is going to let that happen? They are alll bootlickers who dare not go up against tinypeepee man.
I am glad Musk is finally seeing the effect of the "will of the people".
Triumph of the Will, there's a movie in there somewhere
Reminds me of Gerald Ratner.
Spot on.
People who like Musk don't like EVs. People who don't like Musk like EVs. If the new Model Y is launched and sales don't bounce back, Musk finally stands a chance of being voted out. Maybe this means that the new Model Y's launch will be delayed sine die, to keep blaming poor sales on customers who are waiting for the newest model to hit the market.
Elon's bet: go all in on the Trump agenda so revenue from rockets, brain implants, self driving tech, etc outweighs the lost revenue from Tesla. Will be interesting to watch.
Tesla is grossly overvalued as a company. With flat sales the company is not worth more than 25-30x PE which would put it at 1/4th of its current valuation.
Sales are not "flat," they are cratering.
Great news. Now it’s time for European carmakers to shut up and get making EVs. Management and unions need to stop bickering and hedging and get on with it.
Was this not printed a few weeks back? With reference to the German dude and his funny stickers.
Where I live, the DC area, people are starting to vandalize Teslas. People are very upset, as you can imagine.
what a meaningless article. Looks like the reporters were rushed to print whatever story to meet their daily quota of negative Tesla coverage. It's a cyclical business, one month of data should not come as a headline. New releases are coming up, not only the new model Y but also an affordable model expected to be available this year.
We’ll see. I think it’s far more serious than that - the Tesla brand is irreparably tarnished. Swasticars, anyone?
Sounds like you are super long Tesla. Good luck.
It might be a blip (e.g. everyone waiting for Model Y relaunch) or it might be a sign of something more serious for the brand. Time will tell. It sounds like they are trying to bring forward the release of the Model Q, perhaps to cover for a failed robotaxi effort, but maybe that's too cynical?
What do you think as a consumer? You have an opinion don’t you, just like you have a nose?
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Personally, I wouldn't touch the brand with a bargepole. Sales in the UK are only slightly down, however, so I am not sure where other UK car buyers are coming out. Time will tell.

Tesla's share price remains out of touch with the business's fundamentals but many hedge funds have been badly burnt trying to benefit from that apparently obvious trade.

It's a funny old world.
Are you serious? The market share of Tesla is now close to 1% in Europe. Would be interesting to have the last figures in the US and in Asia to see if this is only a European trend.
Definetly europeans are putting politics in front their choice of new cars. They will regret it, Teslas are by far the best and most reliable TVs on the market today, and Musk is dead right in getting involved in politics as Europe is a wreckage of burocracy, and blind politicians ( most of them probably corrupt|).
Bot or just misguided?
Can bots spell that badly?
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Tesla’s are great TVs, you’re right. EVs? Less so…
Teslas just look like modded Ford Mondeos. And the service network is inexistent.
That’s mightily unconvincing.
Rubbish
So then when can we start shorting finally?
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I'm trying to imagine the catastrophe that would happen to any other car manufacturer if its sales went down 45% YoY for an entire continent. The CEO would be deposed immediately, the stock would tank, and there would be mass layoffs. Instead, Tesla stock will probably end the day in the green because the fanboys still have some money left to throw at it.

The inevitable crash will just be that much more dramatic.
Steady as she goes…

Yes, Tesla’s January sales in Europe are down significantly. IMO, a big part is due to the launch of an updated Model Y - you know, the world’s best-selling car - potential buyers prefer the latest model. A smaller part is likely due to unhappiness with Musk’s political antics and outrageous lies and language.

I have admired Musk for more than a decade - my company started supplying Tesla in 2009, I met with Musk and Executives multiple times, I first invested in 2012 and since 2017 I drive an excellent Model X. I continue keeping my retirement fund 90%+ in TSLA, as the company is better poised for future growth and profits than any other I can see. It is harder and harder to stand behind Musk, but Tesla has a deep bench of very talented staff. If things careen completely out of control, I anticipate a transition like the one at Apple after Steve Jobs’ demise. Initial turmoil and doubts, but steady hands will take over and things will be even better. Maybe less creative and ground-breaking, but with Tesla’s pipeline of incredible products, it will be far better than the regular updates of basically the same phone, as we have seen at Apple.

Short term - uncertainty and probable stock price gyrations. Long term, it’s all good.
I continue keeping my retirement fund 90%+ in TSLA
Wow. Yikes. Holy shti.
Insane isn't it
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I mean... putting 90% of your retirement into a single equity is insane all on its own, but to put it all into a company that just lost almost half its sales in Europe, 12% of its sales in China, is helmed by an Internet troll who openly despises and publicly ridicules the target demographic for its products, is at serious -- practically guaranteed -- risk of having its main plant shut down by the Chinese government to help sales for local competitors, and is not the technological leader in the industry?

What's worse than "insane?" Vigorous self-hatred?
My Tesla position has grown to around 90% from nothing in my portfolio, so it is not quite the same as putting 90% into Tesla now. Well, I will be fine regardless, but I’m willing to take my chances on what I think is the best bet around.

In the early 1990s, I worked closely with Dell, but never bought their stock. While I saw huge upside and a bright future for them (turned out to be true), I was reluctant when seeing that the shares had doubled the previous year, then tripled the next. I kept looking backwards when considering investing instead of looking forward. I learned from this as Dell kept doubling and tripling for several more years. With Tesla, I made my bet only looking to the future and my conviction is stronger today than ever. No guarantees, but I sleep very well at night knowing I have created generational wealth.
I first bought at <$2/share and with the incredible growth it has become a huge holding. I see no reason to diversify away from what is the stock with the most upside. Trust me, along the way from <$2.00/share to now, many people have urged me to sell. I follow my own instincts on this one - built on a decade plus of knowing the company extremely well, staying close to them every day and seeing what they set out to do and have on their plate to complete. Any other company even close to Tesla in terms of real-world AI applications? While most news is about AI for bits, Tesla is about AI for atoms.
So I guess what you're saying is that eventually Tesla will not make or sell cars, just AI? And that this AI is so revolutionary and amazing that it will make even more money than it made selling cars?

Trick question: aside from nVidia (which sells hardware *to* AI companies, as opposed to selling AI services), which companies are making money on AI right now? Or are even projected to make a profit from AI in the near future?
I don’t have an answer to that question. I do believe, however, that Tesla will eventually sell access to their real-world AI compute, models and possibly date a similar way to Amazon and AWS. Highly profitable.
Everything Musk does, the Chinese will do better and cheaper. See DeepSeek. No one seem to account for the technological tsunami coming from Asia
Long term, providing Musk keeps his head in politics and his spastic arm is still moving, it will be a glorious retreat back down..
The new Y is a faceless larder fridge (no eyes, just LED slits).
Fits well into the fascist theme!
Just two questions. Why do talented people keep working for Musk, despite tantrums etc? Is it just the money? Second, aren’t Chinese (BYD) outperforming on price/value?
I think a lot of the Tesla staff believes fully in the mission and nothing has changed in that regard. Many people there could retire well any time, but they keep at it with eyes on the mission. Admirable and a formidable force.

BYD is one of the few truly good EV alternatives, in my opinion. If someone close to me wanted to buy one, I’d ask why instead of a Tesla, but would not really quibble. I prefer Tesla as a car for many reasons. Supercharging, design, safety, the built-in intelligence and user-friendliness, the constant upgrades/updates you get over-the-air, everything works and the fact that you will soon be able to add your Tesla to their self-driving network in order to make make money from your car when you don’t use it, which is about 94% of the time in the U.S.
Having read this I'm off to short them.
If Tesla can get rid of Musk, it's a great investment. With him it's just a Nazi car company.
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Disclaimer : I shorted the stock at 450

It may just be an impression but every time there is bad news, the stock drops the day before. To me, it’s showing insider are bailing .
Stop using X. Invest in European satellites.
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I own a Tesla which I really love to drive. But I dislike Musk with equal intensity. He is such a despicable self opinionated Pratt. He should butt out of other countries business of which he has no clue.
Same, I love my car. It's the best electric car on the market. It's just so depressing watching Musk devalue the brand to this extent. I'm worried my car will be attacked because of it. I'd like to see a really strong Tesla board tell him to shut up, unfortunately he's stuffed it full of cronies and family.
It isn't anymore. BYD far better value for money.
There are some pretty nice alternatives. I just rode a Ford Mustang EV. Much more comfortable ride, similar looks, similar features.

Eventually the Chinese will blow away Tesla and all the other EV competitors.

Plus it is not clear to me that the EV technology is quite there yet. Plug-in hybrids have all the advantages of EVs with none of their disadvantages.

EVs and Teslas are currently a fad, and Tesla success rode on the back of the goodwill of well-off liberal coastal consumers. The goodwill is now gone and that consumer base will move to hybrids and plug-in hybrids.
So sell it or torch it.
Don't buy a swasticar
I think the only remaining strategy for Elon now is to threaten to fire anyone who doesn’t buy a Tesla …
Imagine taking a moral stance against Elon Musk by buying a car made by a CCP-backed company. Vance et al have a point when they say that Europeans have lost their way.
American more so.
Communists over Nazis? Hmmm....

Or you could just by American? Or Korean?
9900 to much
9900 too much.
too many?
I own a Tesla. Love the car, but never again while Musk is involved
So yesteryear. Get to this decade, dude. Much better options available.
Really? I've been looking for a replacement for my model Y and I'm struggling to find anything comparable (range, performance, safety, luggage space) in the same price range. Say what you like about Musk (and I do) but he did know how to make good cars
The Europeans should surely be able to get their act together on this and stop buying Tesla full stop. I would celebrate robustly!
“Overall new vehicle registrations on the continent fell 2.1 per cent in January to 995,271.”

Does this account for most of the drop?
Reducing the overall size of the market does not lead to a reduction in market share within that market.

When considering the overall car market you need to be careful to not determine causality where there is none - Tesla registrations dropped year on year. New vehicle registrations dropped year on year. Neither can be said to be causal on the other without (a lot) more information, e.g.

"Overall car registrations dropped because the Tesla numbers dropped" is just as baseless and false a statement as "Tesla numbers dropped because overall car registrations dropped" If you really wanted to put that in context you would need to conduct deeper research (and most likely, without access to in-house numbers that Musk will likely never make public, you will never really be able to know for sure)
Let's not buy any Swasticars anymore!
Getting some more solar panels and a battery. The installer told me gleefully when I asked that he doesn't use Tesla branded batteries. I guess they're manufactured in China, but even so I'm glad not to have the Tesla name on my wall.
Toxic Tesla.
You ain't seen anything yet Felon, I'd not drive your cars if i was given it for free.
The goal of net zero is on track.
If they got rid of Elon they’d have a prospect of bouncing back.
Short Tesla stock - crash and burn baby !!!
I’m not particularly into Musk and didn’t like the brand at any point either pre his political forays or now he’s omnipresent.
I listened to Doomberg a week ago who was saying that the upcoming performance of Tesla was going to be weak and that in real terms the brand sales have been flatlining for a while and will come tune to decline. I don’t think the story is as much tied to the cult or toxic nature of Musk as it is to a more general move away from full electric as an attractive option beyond a limited demographic. Is it possible people are projecting politically triggered emotional responses and attributing them to something that was in a process of happening anyway?
Did you not even read the article? how is this a move away from EVs:

The fall came even as European consumers purchased 166,000 battery EVs for the month, up 37 per cent from a year ago. Pure EV sales grew faster than those of all other types of vehicles, while sales of cars with petrol and diesel engines fell 20.5 per cent and 26.5 per cent, respectively.
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This was to be expected. Musk is a divisive figure. If only those who share his views consider buying his cars, the value of Tesla shares should be 10% of what they are quoted at. No one will want to ride in Elon's robots taxis either.
Musk doesn't care. He has much to gain in the US by deregulation.
US consumer may not like that either.
I would not touch toxic Musk.
From talking to numerous people who share Musk's views, I can tell you that none of them likes electric cars.
"Automotive analysts have said that another factor behind Tesla’s sales decline could be that consumers were waiting for the upgraded Y model, scheduled for the first half of 2025" - wishful thinking...
FAFO
This dude will be thrown under the bus. What is he doing? Run Elon!
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Somebody at the FT should write an article about all those Analysts promoting Tesla shares on the web. I checked various ones and some people who have fancy profiles dont seem to exist at all. Some others basically have 0 experience and the remainder all have vested interest as they own stock.

These articles almost focus on the average price predictions but include nonsense predictions auch as ARK and exclude the ones from reputable analysts. They almost never share that the majority recommends sell and hold, instead of buy.

Over the past month the articles seem to recognize sales are declining but shift focus on the upcoming Robotaxis, without referring to major challenges and setbacks, and the 10 trillion dollar Optimus, which does not even exist yet and will be easily copied by other very soon, so Tesla will never get a large market share.

Inexperienced investors read and believe all that nonsense and will lost lots of money. Its time people start recognizing that. Media and Regulators: time for action.
Swasticar - 0 to 1939 in 60 seconds!
Actually 3 seconds!
Tesla autopilot update is a dud in China.

It is an inferior product in all respects, plus you have to pay to get it, unlike with BYD and Xiaomi's superior products:
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/tesla-add-city-navigation-features-software-china-2025-02-25/

Tesla to zero, or at least certainly not the current ridiculous dot.com-bubble-esque 162 p/e valuation.
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There's a very catchy advert in London that sums up Musk's political dabbling perfectly. His actions resemble those of Gerald Rattner, who brought down his business with unwise words.

Goes from 0 to 1939 in 3 seconds. Tesla. The Swasticar.

Boycotting US product might become a broader theme, courtesy of Trump. Let's hope so.
Who knew talking down to an entire continent while actively supporting Nazis to replace current leaders would damage Tesla’s brand in said continent
Well said.
Will the same happen to Twitter? It's much harder to get figures for active users but I suspect it's a similar situation. Major companies must be wondering whether it's a good look to still have a Twitter account.
You do hear bluesky in the conversation more now
as European consumers purchased 166,000 battery EVs for the month, up 37 per cent from a year ago. Pure EV sales grew faster than those of all other types of vehicles, while sales of cars with petrol and diesel engines fell 20.5 per cent and 26.5 per cent, respectively
This is the news
Tesla / Musk are now a toxic brand. I suspect Tesla will rebrand or be acquired by Nissan by end of this year either way Tesla has had it's day, BYD will be eating them for lunch before too soon this year.
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excellent news to start off my day. Cheers.

New model Y is due, which is Tesla’s best selling car. These figures will need to see the light of day once they are on the market…. Deferral of buying or not buying ?
The facelift is fugly though and technologically not much different to the existing one
True. As I can gather, the gaps between the body parts are smaller and the interior has been upgraded from Ryanair to Easyjet, plus the headlights have been replaced by a €2.50 LED strip. But the tech remains the same, and the range only marginally improved, and only due to aerodynamics. It’s not going to move the Earth, is it?
Surprised the typical FT reader is so reflexively anti Musk. I suspect it reveals that he has all the right enemies. If a high IQ man, with ADHD, who thinks that some DEI has gone too far and thinks that the West has allowed too many immigrants in too short a time is now hated…then it reveals the state of the West.

You would think he was Keir Starmer with the reactions here. Now, here is a man who seems to seethe with contempt for the common man - which appears more acceptable to FT readers.

Oh yes, but Musk who surrounds himself with engineers from India, China and other countries is a hateful racist! Give your head a shake.
its not that, he has the right to his views like everyone else. Its that he uses his wealth to meddle in the politics of other nations. If he just kept his mouth shut and chose not to attack politicians from his platform on twitter, I would not mind.
For decades many wealthy have been pulling strings from the back rooms. This man is hiding in plain sight, with a clear and open mission and was selected by a democratically elected President.
Selected, not elected, or even an approved employee. He has no legal position to do what he's doing in the USA, and has a full set of tin ears if he thinks he can go about sailing Nazi-style, backing far-right groups in Germany and not get blowback in Europe.
It’s very sad that you see it as your role on Earth to defend someone else’s manifestly inexcusable actions, like a modern-day Renfield. Get a life.
Musk is unashamedly white supremacist. The British employed Indians & blacks in their empire and armies but did not treat them as equals. Hiring people of different ethnicities doesn't clear someone of being racist. Racism is a belief system
I think you have no evidence of that and confuse being proud of one’s culture with racism. My Chinese colleague has taught me loads about how proud Chinese people are if their long history - as they should be - and his personal pride could be mistaken for Chinese supremacism. Except it’s not. It healthy pride based on facts.
Yeah, but your Chinese colleague doesn't do NAZI salutes nor associate closely with Trump & Thiel
Surprised you're surprised Rick.

Added to the fact that many of us always thought that Tesla styling + finish looked tacky, we've now got a slam dunk reason to shun Adolf's original flagship product.
You do you man. That’s what you are here for.
Musk is techno fascist -- its not derogatory term -- its just his ideology, ripping apart social fabric and pushing technology narrative, which is beneficial only for his bottom-line. Techno-fascism is peculiar as it attracts both outright fascists as Russian speaking commenting trolls here and their delusional Western libertarians as well as techno authoritarians (Nick Land admirers). Musk is dangerous man as a technofascist , formidable businessman and pathetic human being.
An IQ of somewhere between 100 and 110 is not that high. That is, it's above average (100), but not by that much.
Let’s hope that the boycott sends a strong message that we still have the right to choose and we are not choosing Elon Musk
A quick peak on Tesla.com reveals that the new Model Y is available from March in all major markets. Meanwhile the company runs down its stocks of the old Model Y. As this is by far the biggest volume product the company has one would expect a negative impact on sales for the company.
Studiously ignored in this piece in favor of politics.
It’s literally in the article
They sneakily disconnected it from the story by saying that the Model Y is available in the first half of the year. It’s available on Saturday - you just need to look on Tesla.com. I don’t think this was carelessness.
You’re clutching at straws.
Demand must be really off the hook for the Y refresh in Europe if production starts in March and I can order one now for delivery in March in Germany, Spain, France and Italy (just checked)
Production started in January/February. They were well aware of the likely impact on sales of their best selling vehicle and have planned and are executing a launch in all 3 major markets for Saturday. The complexities associated with this are high. The waiting list that is building up is phenomenal. The launch of the Model Y in the UK is in June, this is why the FT article can (disingenuously IMHO) get away with talking about a launch in the first half of the year. February’s sales numbers are going to be off the scale but I’m sure the FT will have moved on to the next Tesla scare story. It’s basically been an FT theme for the last decade.
I remember when the Cybertruck had 1.5m reservations and Elon was on Joe Rogan saying they might produce 250k in 2025...looks like a tenth of that now. But do carry on.
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They have a current run rate of about 10,000 trucks per month - and continue to ramp up. It’s the best selling electric truck in the US. They might produce 250,000 units this year but it would be a stretch.
I think democratic world just should not spent any money on usa made products now. Of course if there is close alternatives.
Yeah like Chinese products. China did so much to defend Europe.
Tesla sell . Byd is a buy
February’s figures will be worse. Musk only gave his infamous salute on 20 January, so 2/3rds of the way through the month. For many, that was the final straw when an adamant “I will never buy a Tesla” took hold.
The whole car industry, particularly at the top end, builds on what your car says about you.
It turns out that people do not want to be an ad for AfD.
Democracy at work I say.
Excellent news. I hope that Tesla craters and that this has a material effect on Musk's other ventures.
What 5 things of value did Elon Musk deliver for Tesla last week? Failure to respond will be deemed to be resignation!
What 5 things of value did Elon Musk deliver for the USA last week? Failure to respond will be deemed to be resignation!
I would argue, deportation.
Europe generates some 20% of Tesla's revenues. It should now quickly go towards zero.
'net zero'.
Sales don't look too rosy for him in china either. No perspective on what's going on in America, but one suspects it's not great there either
It’s a grubby thing to do to buy a Musk related car. Plus products build quality does not seem up to standard especially for those who buy German vehicles.
Hoping the collapse in the Tesla share price happens soon
Turns out most people don't like it when you salute like you know who.
Many in the Trump gravy train are at it.
Interesting how articles love to link the drop in sales to Elon Musk and nothing else.
Is it possible that some (if not most) of Tesla future buyer are waiting for the new Model Y - their top sale - to buy it? It only became available (the standard version) a few days ago.

'Tesla’s falling market share comes after Musk’s unprecedented foray into EU politics, where he backed the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) ahead of the country’s elections, sparking a backlash on the continent.'
The whole continent could not care less about that because 80% the whole continent was probably not aware of the German election (sorry but that's the reality)
The Italian and French news have covered nothing but the German election, and the support and attempted legitimization of AfD by Musk. In Northern Italy, there are media reports indicating where Tesla vehicles have been vandalized in public parking lots with Swastika's and "FASCISTA" written on them.

Meanwhile, in the UK, check out the current resale values of used Tesla vehicles, for the first time ever with several listed at under £10K.
Felon Musk is totally intoxicated by the drug of arrogance. No one doubts his abilities as an entrepreneur and visionary, but he doesn't doubt that he is magnificent at everything.

Whether it is philosophy, politics, economics or sociology, he believes that he is infused by a divine wand that instantly transfers to him the knowledge and wisdom that others as or more valid than him have accumulated. It happens to actors too, very good at what they do but stupid in other fields in which they dogmatize.

Hopefully this will serve as a warning to so many entrepreneurs, very good at what they do, who consider that society is a company and that it is only a matter of applying its directive principles to civil society. Clarification: I do not consider the Conman a businessman.
..blame it on the Ket ?
good
I wouldn’t take drive one if I was given it for free
This reminds me of the David Mitchell sketch ‘are we the baddies?’ Some Tesla owners start to feel like that.
Music to my ears!
putting together trumps green hostility and musk meddling into european politics it’s a big SELL for Tesla unless they materially diversify away from automotive business and exploit Musk special relationships…
i hope the company goes out of business very very fast
cause the maga crowd is going to have to start buying ev's, and I find that one a bit difficult.

oh and a big middle finger to his prior man/boy fan club now that we know who and what he really is. shows suckers are born every minute
Sales are a fleeting metric—subject to fluctuations, spikes, and corrections. You may think sales “don’t mean nothing,” but in the strictest sense, they mean everything. In reality, however, they mean nothing. Lift the hood.Tesla transcends the cyclical nature of car sales, positioning itself as a technological force at the intersection of energy, artificial intelligence, and automation. While its automotive division garners attention, Tesla’s true distinction lies in its foundational advancements across multiple industries.
It is, at its core, an energy company—the global leader in battery storage solutions, seamlessly integrating residential, commercial, and grid-scale power through innovations like Powerwall, Megapack, and solar energy systems. It owns and operates the world’s most expansive and fastest EV charging network, eliminating a major constraint of electric vehicle adoption.
Tesla also leads in full self-driving (FSD) technology, leveraging an unparalleled neural network that is continuously improving through real-world data aggregation. Unlike competitors reliant on third-party suppliers, Tesla maintains full control over battery production, software development, and proprietary AI training, ensuring optimization at every level.
Service and maintenance have been redefined. While legacy automakers still operate within a dealership-centric model that necessitates loaner vehicles and service appointments, Tesla vehicles self-update via over-the-air (OTA) software improvements, enhancing performance, safety, and autonomy in real time.
Beyond automotive, Tesla is at the vanguard of robotics. The Tesla Bot (Optimus) exemplifies its broader vision—automation beyond transportation, designed to integrate into industries and everyday life.
Tesla transcends the cyclical nature of car sales, positioning itself as a technological force at the intersection of energy, artificial intelligence, and automation.
This is all very well, but when the brand and its 'founder' become a punchline the cars don't sell.
As long as you are happy with your Swasticar...
You can transcend whatever you like, but running out of cash is still running out of cash.
Okay, you own tesla shares.

While tesla may pursue other businesses, it’s a car company at its core. Look at the revenue breakdown.

Car companies make money by selling cars. Selling less cars is bad.
If, as the article points out, that when EV sales in Europe have gone up 37% , Tesla sales have dropped 45%, that is quite a 'fluctuation' isn't it.
There is nothing that Tesla/X does in terms of transport, battery, charging, satellite launch etc that others dont already do, and often better - oh except for banging on about going to mars which is a pointless, expensive distraction beloved of the fanboys. If Musk is seen by investors as a liability rather than an asset (and he has plenty of form on being a liability) then the Tesla value that boomed ahead of actual profit, could bust ahead of actual losses.
I am trying to avoid buying Chinese or US products. It’s easier with Cars but US tech is difficult to replace. Any suggestions?
Depends what you are looking for. The VW ID.7 tourer is the best estate EV available at the moment and according to Which the Best buy large car.
I’m doing the same journey.
Personally, I'm partial to the brand new Renault 5. Pretty stunning.
Its a beauty, right? Talk about relaunching cult models with a flair.
Nobody wants to look like Heydrich driving around in a Swasticar. Lots of teslas around where I live and people are respectfully not vandalizing them. Yet.
Who are the people still buying Tesla’s? Chinese EVs are much more modern, have better battery technology and do not suffer from Musk label
The China label is not much better in my books :(
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The Tesla you buy may well also have been manufactured in Shanghai.
Musk's capering on the global political stage is obviously a contributory factor. Of more moment is the Tesla offering - clunky, bland and bug-prone cars long overdue a new model line.
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After having a model S and model 3 I am switching to a European brand when my lease contract comes up for review. The reason is purely political.
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Serves the b'gger right!
Buy European and Korean as alternative
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A piece of great news to go down with my morning coffee.

Now, Europe needs to build credible alternatives to SpaceX and Starlink. ESA/Arianne 6 is working on that, but needs to work harder (not 4 days week as Spain is promoting).

Also, Eggs 1 - MAGA 0
There is a God!
Good. I will add Tesla to my boycott of Amazon and Facebook.
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This should start to spread to other people with international businesses in Trumps administration as they are all part and parcel of these policies and blame game, there are plenty more Trump backers aswell who came out publicly to back him , they should also be shunned for their extreme views , so they can also feel the voter’s wrath
Could they be sanctioned as Russian collaborators??
My Tesla's started pulling hard right and the sat nav keeps shouting slurs.
Anyone know if there's a fix?
when the windscreen wipers start giving Nazi salutes, stop the vehicle before it's too late
It's refusing to stop until we reach Poland. Any advice?
Pack some supplies, next stop could be Volgo(ex Stalin, soon Donald)grad.
Im ashamed to say that these comments made me laugh!
If it’s the latest Tesla SS Model, have you tried jack-booting the software using Ctl-Alt-Right-Delete?

It might ‘goose step’ whilst it resets.
Who could possibly have guessed that becoming a full time troll and throwing Nazi salutes at right-wing rallies could be bad for business?
Agree, I admire the businessman and think he is an exceptional entrepreneur but this shift into ultra right politics is bad for his business, the world and ultimately my ETFs
Looks like he's finally had his Gerald Ratner moment.
Making Gerald Ratner look like an amateur.
This comments section is brutal. And it’s brilliant. Burn Elon!!!!!
It’s simply the ugliest car on the market.
Nobody, outside of the MAGA tribe, wants to be associated with Musk anymore. He won’t be selling many cars to the 75,000,000 Americans who voted against Trump.

Other CEOs might wish to take heed, and not fly too close to the Sun.
Sun? Black hole more like
President Musk doesn't care, he is now making money by stopping NASA initiatives in favor of SpaceX

For what will it profit a man if he gains control of the US, but forfeits his Tesla operation?
The answer is "a lot"
With apologies to St Matthew 16:16
We should boycott everything American!!
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Good. Coincidentally I'm seeing a lot more BYD vehicles around now.
Excellent news, hope it’s the direction of travel.
I expect that the next step on Elon's MAGA odessey will be the announcement that the future
Teslas will have petrol engines.
Serves him right!

By the way, why don't Teslas show the model name anywhere? how do you distinguish Model X from Model Y?
they are a different shape. X has gullwing doors too.
One is more ugly than the other
By the look of it, they might not even show the brand name anywhere soon.
Swear to god that Tesla board of directors is guilty of high treason for not firing Musk.
Will he pursue his $54bn compensation scheme?
The issue he should be fired for damaging the company, shareholders and the brand. He needs to go.
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And he should be sued. He wants $54bn to run Tesla, but spends all of his time on side projects?
His compensation is share options. Perhaps might end up being a lot less than $54bn.
Stuck with my Y on lease till next Sept.
Getting a sticker to ensure I am not labelled a w a n k e r
If only German alternatives were equal to or ahead of the simplicity, tech, and infrastructure.
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Well, if the cap fits ........
Is that the one with the sieg heiling rear doors or am I thinking of the Model X?
The new Beemers and the next round of VWs are a step in the right direction. The Japanese have finally woken up to the need to produce more modern EVs too. The new Mazda 6 looks pretty good. There are plenty of Tesla alternatives now, even if you don’t fancy buying Chinese. I think that explains the pace of abandoning Tesla. Previously you’d have to hold your nose at Musk’s stupidity if you wanted (mostly) class leading EV performance and price. Not so much any more.
Time for Musk to be booted out!
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Apparently FSD is about to launch in China. It won’t save Tesla though. BYD is giving away its FSD while Musk is selling his for $8,000.

Tesla self-drive is fundamentally flawed as it only uses cameras and shuns LiDAR. The Chinese firms use both. BYD and Xiaomi are eating Tesla.

If Trump plays hard ball on tariffs with China then Musk can kiss goodbye to his Shanghai factory.

One way or another, Tesla is going to zero... and so is Musk’s real and paper wealth (hopefully).
One way or another, Tesla is going to zero... and so is Musk’s real and paper wealth (hopefully).
I think it’s safe to say that Musk will never be dumpster-diving for food, unlike some of the victims of his Doge chainsaw.
Hey E-loon, I hope you have a good read of these real comments before you swamp the space with paid cronies and bots. Tesla's going down
Just bought an ESUV recently. Didn’t want Tesla x so waited for Volvo ex90 to come out
This is just the usual lull ahead of the new product launches.
The Model SS and the Model ࿗ will be convertibles in emerald colour, commanded by hand gestures only.
Model SS....... 😂
He does not mean it, he is just an autistic genius, it’s all a misunderstanding.

As a gesture of love, the robotaxi service will be free of charge in disadvantaged communities, available through the Relocation 59 app. It is one way only though, a technical limitation.
And they'll drive their passengers into walls, all to purify the Reich.
He does not mean it, he is just an autistic genius, it’s all a misunderstanding.

As a gesture of love, the robotaxi service will be free of charge in disadvantaged communities, available through the Relocation 59 app. It is one way only though, a technical limitation.
He's not autistic, he's just a massive narcissist.
The swasticar
ROFL
9.9k is still too many
I and my friends will not be buying Tesla. Eilon Musk is the reason.
We should keep pushing! As citizens we have a saying. And as consumers we can also think as citizens.
What next. Boycott America?
A lot of people already are doing so
Definitely. It is our enemy now, sad for us to see but by its own choice.
Remember when people who owned fur coats stopped wearing them out, because they were worried someone might throw a bucket of red paint at them?

Not sure why I'm remembering that after all these years. Oh look, a Tesla
I hope consumers will continue. Blacklist Tesla.
Excellent news.

Makes their P/E ratio of x160 look positively daft. The stock has SOOOOO much further downside.

The real kicker will be when Trump scraps the carbon credit scheme. 40% of their revenues come from that.

I hope the UK finds a good reason to slap 500% tariffs on for good measure.
1000% would be even better
Maybe make it illegal to put wheels on a Tesla? Any Tesla with wheels is towed and immediately crushed.
But it's been like that for ages: it's a meme stock detached from the underlying reality. The same goes for Musk's other sources of wealth, which being private are just bonkers. The trick he played with the spin-off of xAI is just the cherry on the cake.
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Who wd buy one today? Musk has disgraced himself.
Antagonising consumers in a mature, cyclical market doesn't work.
What is worrying for Tesla is no longer Europe, but China. There sales are falling by 15% annualized and the decline is worsening with each passing week. In the most competitive market in the world, which accounts for 60% of global EV sales, Tesla is now 4th in the ranking, behind BYD, Xpeng and Li Auto. Xiaomi is about to unseat him and, surely, will do so in a couple of months.

Tesla has a very limited product line, its assisted driving software is not comparable and is an important extra. Its division for selling batteries for energy backup is in decline in the face of unbeatable competition from BYD, which is a manufacturer as opposed to a mere reseller like Tesla. Its sale of emission rights will suffer competition from Chinese manufacturers, who have such rights to spare.

It is inevitable that in a few months the stock will fall precipitously.
Spot on.
Great summary of the picture - thanks
This is just the type of top quality comment that makes the FT great to subscribe to.
That would be so nice to see
It’s astonishing Musk thought the Nazi seig heil salute would have a receptive audience. At least we all saw what he’s too afraid to say. That’s what his free speech absolutism is all about - his ability to express his naziness.
Freedom to lie
Nonsense. It was absolutely not a nazi salute. This is when people lose credibility.
If it quacks like a duck, swims like a duck then it’s a duck.
I thought it was arguable each way, but his reported personal congratulation of the AfD does seem to make the nazi salute argument stronger though, no?
Neo-Nazi’s thought it was a Nazi salute and that should tell you everything you need to know
Hear hear, but the German is SIEG Heil.
I write to correct your German, while totally agreeing with your post. It should be Sieg Heil. (from the word 'victory').
Any stats on European X (Twitter) users?
Real or bots?
From what I have seen on the new model Y, there is not a stand-out feature that would attract a new buyer. However, given the choice between the two, you would probably pick the newer one on specs. But it is clearly identifiable as post-fascist Musk which might be an awkward look in suburbia.
Why would anyone want to be seen in those swastic-cars?
Musk 👎
Maybe he could introduce a limited AfD series with nice blue and red stripes to try and bump his numbers up. Other series could be Dark MAGA , KetHead and Chainsaw …
The Alice signature model.

Steering pulls to the right, you'll have to get used to it.
Good one !
Let's go for "net zero" Tesla sales.
Tesla’s blizkreig on the European EV market is over.
Good
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As an EVE driver, I can assure you that there are a few who won't buy a Tesla, they do not like what Elon now stands for but more importantly, they have choice! lots of choice.


More interestingly is the fact that a few I speak to have puy BYD as a top contender for their next car.

There are at least 4-6 models to choose from at any price bracket.


Tesla's sales in Europe grew due to their short delivery times due to the chip shortage post 2021 chip crises, that problem has now been resolved.
The second hand market must have tanked too
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No, sales are up in January in the UK. But prices have tanked.
No one’s going to heil a robotaxi either.
Although hailing a mobile urinal could be an attractive prospect after a night out.
I see what you did there
With the way Elon and Trump are looking at EU, it makes sense, especially when EU has their own alternatives.
Bye bye US products. A lot of people I know are doing their best to de-Americanise.

Starting with the companies of the tech bros that abased themselves to Trump at his inauguration.
We shouldn't ignore LNG imports which are 20% of Europe's gas demand:


To do this boycott I got a heat-pump which you can get with a 0% interest loan with Nationwide. The cost savings are far less than the monthly payments and you reduce your monthly payments to the US.
A heat pump is the No. 1 move to deamericanize and derussify, in addition to being smart economics. My heating bill is down by 60% - my heat pump would have been a good investment even without the 6.000€ public subsidies I received.
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Indeed. Left that Heinz Ketchup in the shelf recently and bought a local alternative. Same with Kellogs and Gillette.
Tesla = Ratner
I'm genuinely agog at the length of the gap between the end of production of the old Model Y and the start of deliveries of the new Model Y.

Supposedly Tesla have vast numbers of unsold cars that nobody wants. In reality they've sold everything they could make which leaves them with a gap of over 5 months on the Y

I have no doubt at all that Musk's antics are depressing sales. But at the same time a 5 month availability gap on the best selling car in the world for the last 2 years running is going to make the numbers look really sick for the whole of H1
"Best selling car in the world": take China numbers out of that and try again.
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It is all very strange. They have significantly "price adjusted" the old model Y in the US, which indicates they have stock, or at least excess production.
Not sure about that, unless he discounts them tremendously. They did raise the prices by 10k€ though for the same old car. Not sure that will work out nicely. Plus of course the political mingles, that are not appreciated,
Very average cars, with grotty interiors. A little bit like Nokia, first to the party but overtaken by far better products. Then you throw that “melt” musk into the equation. Jog on Elon.
Context for why "it appeared as if the State Department was taking steps to award Elon Musk's Tesla a $400 million government contract to buy armored EVs" (NPR, 24-Feb)?
Good to see Europe being more efficient with its money by spending less on Musk.
Frankly, if I had a Tesla, I would sell it asap.
Who would buy it? Is there a scrappage scheme?
Nope. In fact I would not buy an electric car, no matter the brand. Hybrid is perfect, but fully electric? Nope. The technology is not there yet.
Yes, Polestar are offering a $5000 trade in.
Curious feedback loop
Will the anti-environment movement (Farage and the rest) now start buying electric vehicles to show appreciation of their hero?
A very good point. By definition almost, the MAGA types hate EVs. I guess Musk doesn't care through his ketamine kaleidoscope
The cars aren’t competitive any more and they are also symbolic of America First economic nationalism. Dead in the water. It’s hard not to use a Microsoft product or Amazon. It’s the easiest thing in the world not to buy or lease a Tesla.
It's easy not to use Amazon.
Try not using AWS without retreating from online life
to be fair, when comparing Tesla - consumer product - to MS or Amazon it is easy to understand your point as a reference to the consumer versions of the those 2 companies.
But you are not wrong
There’s some bigger opportunities to build AWS style services in the EU but it’ll take a long time

Email, Calendar and Google Docs style alternatives would be one place to start

Elastic Compute, Storage, DB, FAAS would be another

Whether there’s anyone in Europe who’s willing to fund it is another matter
Fair point. The biggest issue is we don't even know we are using it.
You can use Open Office for free if you want to avoid MS. https://www.openoffice.org
It’s possible to get rid of Microsoft hard- and software, too. I am currently transitioning away from it with my small business.
The brand is rightly in the trash. It’s not just Europe, it’s going to be the blue areas of the US who will be shunning this car. The share price is significantly over valued, its going to absolutley plummet.
Rather ironic that the rants have led to more Chinese imports.
The unknown unknown of Trump's trade strategy is the effect of utter distrust felt within America's former-ally countries. Wait til the tariff talk ramps up again... Folks are already consciously avoiding American products even before the inevitable inflation kicks in.

The one thing that underpins any great relationship is trust. It'll be a long while til anyone trusts Uncle Sam again.
The start of the end of the road.
Shouldn’t the Telsa board fire Musk?
They won't, because that's a sure fire road to a 15x PE multiple which is -80% from here
Swasti-cars
I'm a bit of a China hawk, but after what this guy has done to my country I'm ready to go out and buy a BYD myself just to spite him and his companies
No great need to spite anyone. Take a test drive in a BYD. You are getting a far better car for your cash. Really very impressive.
It'll hurt more if you buy a VW ev.
Excellent! We should do the same with Apple, Dell, Nike, Mc Donalds, Burger King, etc, etc, etc…
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Grape Nuts; sweet potatoes (usually from North Carolina) - wait until the season swaps in the UK to Egypt or South Africa (Argentina also produces them). If you really love them, buy when Egyptian, chop up and freeze ☺️
Netflix should be top of the list, no one “needs” Netflix.
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I price checked John Lewis for a few things I was going to buy and the prices were similar and some cases better than Amazon; they have reintroduced the price promise which probably helps. A month ago, I cancelled my Amazon subscription and deleted the app. Since then, my addiction to next day delivery has abated and I have also bought less things I didn't really need.
This is a good thought. I like JL and need to wean off Amazon. Maybe that is a good thing to give up for Lent - Amazon Google and see how it goes. Apple is more difficult.
You reap what you sow
This is by no means a political comment, but aesthetically and quality wise Tesla as a brand just never appealed to me.
Gah! We swallowed our doubts about Elon and bought a Model
Y last year… whoops. The practical concern is whether the charging network is maintained/developed as sales continue to crater.
Same boat with 2nd hand model 3. Certainly wouldn’t buy one now.
Shame on you for knowingly buying one.
I wanted one for a good few years but now must admit I look at them and their owners with distain. Appreciate it's not your fault really though. Musk wasnt quite the drug fiend paranoid freak he is now back then.
But that secondhand price will be horrendous
I have been toying with the idea of buying a Tesla for the last few months. Was even more than ready to jump when the new Y was announced. But:
1) price increased by almost 10k€
2) European EVs have pretty much caught up, just look at VW's id.7
3) last but not least, while I have almost admired Musk's entrepreneurial spirit, his political forays were just too much to bare
So Tesla is off my buying list... probably for good
Good for you. Don't reward a fascist.
Never bare your political forays.
In the U.S. he remains immensely popular. Most comments here seem to be from Europeans. Trump won the popular vote. They support DOGE’a gutting agenda - no evidence or due process required.
The U.S. population now gets its news and views from social media, which is infested with bots telling lies.

It follows that U.S. public opinion is now a guide to which alternative facts or silly opinions the U.S. oligarchy wanted to push during the previous 90 days.
Exactly. Democracy has been dead ever since the age of "manufactured consent", and who knows when this really started.
Do you prefer your lies from an pretty Anchor in a brightly lit studio beamed over Air waves?
The "gutting agenda" is built on a complete myth and will hugely damage the US.
This is wrong, he is very unpopular in the US.
Canadians are still raw and will be for a while.
That's really interesting. Looks like he will need to flog EVs to Republicans. I actually wish him luck on that but it is doomed to fail.
He might still be popular in the US (though it's questionable if the social group of current Tesla buyers in the US really buys into him), but over 20% of Tesla sales come from the EU. He can probably take a 20-30% drop and later get bailed out with public funds—something not every US company can manage. What's the edge for Starbucks, McDonald's, Netflix, Apple, and the like? It used to be that looking American was cool. Not anymore. The biggest export of the US was American soft power, but there will be no buyers for it in the future.
But can his supporters afford a Tesla ?
I'd wait to see how those Q1 results play out: Tesla's main market in the US are blue states and sales were slipping in 2024 already. Fame and popularity don't really coincide.
He is no doubt immensely popular with some Americans (and some non-Americans as well). The question here is whether they are the sort of people who will buy Teslas - at least in the volume his business requires to be successful. I would wager on the negative.
The Tesla brand is terminally tarnished. Good riddance.
Clearly you haven't heard about Volkswagen and BMW...