This is a legal business organizational issue which is contractual and generally of public record - many AEC firms have partners of different types that don't have to be licensed professionals - many firms have Managing Partners who take of the firm's business administration ...
May 2, 26 1:59 pm ·
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OddArchitect
Kind of. In the US, a person does not always have to be a licensed architect to be a partner in an architecture firm. Many states require a percentage of owners to be licensed though. There are states that require all partners in an architectural firm to be architects with a current license.
"partner" in a firm can mean and usually means an owner but we know the term is more complicated in how it is actually used across the varied firms.
If I were to add an architect to my business, I would still be an owner but they would also be but they would be in charge of services requiring an licensed architect and also be in charge of projects they take own that doesn't require an architect license. However, it's threading the way services are represented, the terminology used, the contracts wordage, and so on. Again, it doesn't mean I control the delivery of "architectural services" in Oregon or Washington or other U.S. states.
I have to oversee things are done and be attentive as any respectable owner of such firm needs to be. Functional obligation. You don't need to be licensed to keep an eye on things to be sure those employed and those licensed architects, engineers, etc. that are licensed is doing their job and such. You do your part of assuring the firm is running properly and they should likewise be sure you are doing your job. Mutual accountability.
That goes beyond the exact scope of this thread.
May 20, 26 12:41 pm ·
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OddArchitect
TIQM - where are you practicing? I ask because in the US it varies.
ok.... California architect & firm registration laws.
May 20, 26 3:52 pm ·
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OddArchitect
TIQM - I thought CA required a percentage or partners in an Architecture firm to licensed. Has that changed?
May 20, 26 3:59 pm ·
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atelier nobody
Odd - Only if "architect/ure" or similar is used in the name of the corporation, making it a "Professional Corporation". Any general corporation can offer architectural services as long as they have 1 licensed architect on the payroll. (I was offered the AOR position in a general corporation so I looked this all up - I declined because I wasn't comfortable with the insurance and liability issues, but it would have been legal.)
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"Partner"
Do you have to be registered to be a legal 'partner' in a firm?
Is google broken?
Varies from organization and state.
maybe, it depends. Damn, must be easy navigating adult hood these days.
This is a legal business organizational issue which is contractual and generally of public record - many AEC firms have partners of different types that don't have to be licensed professionals - many firms have Managing Partners who take of the firm's business administration ...
Kind of. In the US, a person does not always have to be a licensed architect to be a partner in an architecture firm. Many states require a percentage of owners to be licensed though. There are states that require all partners in an architectural firm to be architects with a current license.
Thanks
It depends on the state. I'm unlicensed and an equal partner with a licensed architect.
Its easy to be called partner if you're around cowboys
That depends, how many previous 'partners' have you had in the past?
Firm ownership groups are polycules
legally? or just per historical record?
I think you're s t r e t c h i n g the current definition of polycules there Le Courvoisier.
No. You need to be an owner.
"partner" in a firm can mean and usually means an owner but we know the term is more complicated in how it is actually used across the varied firms.
If I were to add an architect to my business, I would still be an owner but they would also be but they would be in charge of services requiring an licensed architect and also be in charge of projects they take own that doesn't require an architect license. However, it's threading the way services are represented, the terminology used, the contracts wordage, and so on. Again, it doesn't mean I control the delivery of "architectural services" in Oregon or Washington or other U.S. states.
I have to oversee things are done and be attentive as any respectable owner of such firm needs to be. Functional obligation. You don't need to be licensed to keep an eye on things to be sure those employed and those licensed architects, engineers, etc. that are licensed is doing their job and such. You do your part of assuring the firm is running properly and they should likewise be sure you are doing your job. Mutual accountability.
That goes beyond the exact scope of this thread.
TIQM - where are you practicing? I ask because in the US it varies.
I'm in Los Angeles.
ok.... California architect & firm registration laws.
TIQM - I thought CA required a percentage or partners in an Architecture firm to licensed. Has that changed?
Odd - Only if "architect/ure" or similar is used in the name of the corporation, making it a "Professional Corporation". Any general corporation can offer architectural services as long as they have 1 licensed architect on the payroll. (I was offered the AOR position in a general corporation so I looked this all up - I declined because I wasn't comfortable with the insurance and liability issues, but it would have been legal.)
Thanks for the info atelier nobody! That's a bit wild!
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