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I've been reading a little book on S Augustine. If I did return properly to the Church on an alternate timeline, I would have been a very different Catholic without Ss Augustine and John Paul. I find remarkable being reminded how many things I see the same way as Augustine, possibly because of having read him so well and so long ago I had forgotten where I first came across some ideas.
There is one thing I do not believe him on, at all. And it is weird, since I don't think I have ever come across a commentator who questions it.
I don't believe the pear story.
If you have forgotten your Confessions, there is a story in there where Augustine claims, as a child, he climbed a wall and stole a neighbor's pears from a pear tree in the garden, despite not even being that into pears. Decades later, he is beating himself up over it, remembering it as a proof of his young depravity. The thought among writers seems to be that he was so scrupulous that this still bothered him, or that he was so virtuous all his life that this was all he could come up with to seem relatable.
I don't buy it. Knowing what little I do about Augustine it doesn't ring true. To me, an enclosed garden with a stolen fruit sounds, on the one hand, too much an echo of Eden, and on the other too erotic. To me, this reads as a regretted seduction. I wonder if it is of the mother of Adeodatus, and if so might be a clue as to why he is cagey about it. For unknown reasons he never names her in any of his writngs, and I have read -- and can believe -- it was to avoid exposing her to shame, having been sent back to her home community in Africa.
Obviously, I can't say for sure. It is likely that if we were ever to know we would already. That is my theory, though.
There is one thing I do not believe him on, at all. And it is weird, since I don't think I have ever come across a commentator who questions it.
I don't believe the pear story.
If you have forgotten your Confessions, there is a story in there where Augustine claims, as a child, he climbed a wall and stole a neighbor's pears from a pear tree in the garden, despite not even being that into pears. Decades later, he is beating himself up over it, remembering it as a proof of his young depravity. The thought among writers seems to be that he was so scrupulous that this still bothered him, or that he was so virtuous all his life that this was all he could come up with to seem relatable.
I don't buy it. Knowing what little I do about Augustine it doesn't ring true. To me, an enclosed garden with a stolen fruit sounds, on the one hand, too much an echo of Eden, and on the other too erotic. To me, this reads as a regretted seduction. I wonder if it is of the mother of Adeodatus, and if so might be a clue as to why he is cagey about it. For unknown reasons he never names her in any of his writngs, and I have read -- and can believe -- it was to avoid exposing her to shame, having been sent back to her home community in Africa.
Obviously, I can't say for sure. It is likely that if we were ever to know we would already. That is my theory, though.