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Josh Ramsey

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Subject does not have the WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 00:16, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:SIGCOV so fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:38, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Kept last time per WP:NFOOTBALL, even after 4 years, there has been no change in the situation. Svartner (talk) 02:00, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Carson Talboys

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Subject lacks the WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 02:55, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:SIGCOV so fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:16, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:34, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Levis Prince Asanji

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Does not meet GNG Uncle Bash007 (talk) 01:20, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 12:35, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Giant Snowman 20:34, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Soccerway

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I cannot find evidence of this website receiving any significant coverage from independent sources after searching for them, thus the topic does not pass WP:WEB. Some sources in the article discuss a recent merging of football websites that is related to this one, but they do not give significant coverage to the website itself or provide evidence of its notability. The other sources are simply a website that list domains, and a primary source. TheInevitables (talk) 22:43, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – Soccerway is used as a valid source. Despite the downgrade, it would be strange to delete something so widely used in the project. Svartner (talk) 12:39, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The AfD isn't about whether Soccerway is a reliable source, it's about whether there's significant coverage that would indicate the website is notable enough to have an article. Robby.is.on (talk) 12:46, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But that would be quite inconsistent, that's the point. Svartner (talk) 12:51, 3 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

I don't see how. Again, reliability isn't the same as notability. Robby.is.on (talk) 12:55, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per previous AFD. Giant Snowman 20:33, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Honduran football league system

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Unsourced. May be WP:SYNTH. Not sure there is an official “system”. Football in Honduras would cover this if there was anyway so not sure an article like this is even needed.4meter4 (talk) 22:00, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Football in Honduras. Tioaeu8943 (talk) 23:01, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Football in Honduras#League system – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 12:38, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 20:33, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mehdi Khelaifia

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Only 3 professional appearances and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 07:26, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, non-career, now effectively ended by age. Hyperbolick (talk) 09:28, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:33, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ayoub Latrèche

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Only 4 professional appearances [1] (211 min) and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 07:24, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:32, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shrikanth Molangiri

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Only 5 professional appearances [2] [3] (316 min) and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 07:18, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:32, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FIFA Recognized Training Base – Port Alberni

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I believe this article should be deleted because it is being used for promotion. It also fails Wikipedia:Notability (events). Looking at Wikipedia:Notability (events)#Inclusion criteria, it fails all the required points there as there is no certainty this event will happen. The notability also fails the requirements for WP:CRYSTAL (the very last sentence of the article is "As of November 2025, the site is still on FIFA's official list and waiting for a team to pick it". To me that means there is still a chance that the facility doesn't get picked.) The event itself is merely a potential training base in Port Alberni. The article itself really says nothing about the training base. There is a bunch of fluff to try and build the article up. Merely a sentence or two at Port Alberni#Sports should be sufficient for the potential event and there is already that there. This is not a stand alone article. Not even close. It should be deleted. I had thought about a bold merge but if no team choses this location, then it'll have to be removed from the Port Alberni page (as it wouldn't have happened). Better if this article gets deleted and if that location is picked, a bit more can be added to the Port Alberni page. Masterhatch (talk) 01:14, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Hi Masterhatch, I am the one who wrote the article (Abujahangir and Abuhasanjahangir, COI disclosed on my user page – I helped with the Port Alberni bid). This is not just a “maybe” thing. FIFA already accepted Port Alberni as an official training site (as pre-tournament and acclimatization training camp) in July 2025 and sent people here to check the stadium and hotels. It's the a national federation's choice which city they will stay prior to tournament begin not FIFA. FIFA will be a party for signing the contract between Port Alberni and the World Cup participating nation. Local news wrote about it several times (Alberni Valley News, CHEK, Times Colonist). You and other editors are welcome to redress. I will do few more work when I will have some more words and arts to include once I will have some more idea on presentation. I think it is okay to have its own page because it is an official FIFA-recognized place, not just a dream. If a team picks it later, we can add more. As I informed you several time I take some assistance of AI but not let AI to write it. Happy to fix anything you think still looks wrong. Thanks. — Abujahangir (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 06:04, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No team has picked the site. How is that notable? Even if a team does pick the site, I still fail to see how it is notable. It is a potential training ground, not an actual game location. A brief mention at Port Alberni is all it deserves. Beyond that, it is all promotion. And Wikipedia is quite clear regarding promotion. Masterhatch (talk) 06:28, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notability isn’t about a team picking it later — it’s that FIFA already recognized Port Alberni in July 2025 as Canada’s only non-host-city training site. FIFA sent scouts, listed it officially, and local news covered it several times. That selection already happened and is notable. Article is now short and clean, no promo left. If no team picks it → we merge the info to Port Alberni page in 2026. If a team does pick it → we can rename the page to something like “FIFA 2026 Training Base – Port Alberni”. Either way, deleting it today throws away good sources for no reason. Appreciate your support to find the notability reason. Thanks. — Abujahangir (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 08:21, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete we don't need articles for training bases for the World Cup, as they won't have WP:LASTING coverage beyond the next year. Even if some teams do base themselves there, that doesn't warrant a separate article on the base anyway, as the bases chosen for teams are relatively poorly covered compared to everything else they do like the squads and matches. Which is the reason why we've never had an article on a World Cup training base before. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:54, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All coverage seems to be from the event of FIFA visiting/picking the facility and while there are some discussions about the facility itself, without coverage independent of this selection event this article should be deleted. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 12:37, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:14, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi everyone, I understand the delete votes — it feels like nothing big has happened yet because no team has picked us. But the big thing already happened: in July 2025 FIFA checked our stadium and hotels, gave the green light, and putting Port Alberni as the only non-host city in Canada and green lights for completing due diligence. 42 Teams will decide within January 2026, but the FIFA approval is real now and already in the news. We have started calling national teams. After Friday we do the second round and narrow it down. We are also talking to BC Soccer about bringing the 2028 provincial championships here (Richmond had it this year, Kamloops and Nanaimo are next, we want our turn after that). The same field will be used for bigger tournaments later. In the USA and Mexico they already have many training sites ready. In Canada the main stadiums (BC Place, BMO, etc.) so as Port Alberni are still being fixed up right before the World Cup. You know the local government supports to be on the same is most crucial which Port Alberni - you can verify the local governments council, board meeting minutes or videos. The article is short, only facts, no big words. I will add more newspaper stories in the next month or two when they come out. If no team comes, we can move the info to the Port Alberni page later. Deleting everything today just throws away what already happened. Thanks for reading. — Abujahangir (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Abujahangir: Three things: 1) you've already "!voted" so you do not need to state "keep" in bold text again; instead you can use "comment" or nothing at all. 2) Everything written in a Wikipedia article needs to be verifiable as soon as it's live. "I will add more later" is a classic argument to avoid in a deletion discussion. 3) Who is "we" that you speak of? Do you have a conflict of interest with this subject? ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" _(hihi) 06:46, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GhostOfDanGurney, thanks for the note.

(1) Got it – no more bold Keep, just a comment now.

(2) Understood, I’m not using “more refs later” as an excuse. The article already has live with three working news links (Times Colonist, Alberni Valley News, CHEK). More will come, but it’s not empty now.

(3) Yes, full COI – I’m on the Port Alberni 2026 organizing committee (already written on my user page and said in every post here). “We” is the local bid team. Happy to answer anything else. — Abujahangir (talk)

Atanas Vargov

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I believe this footballer fails WP:GNG, as I also believe the provided stats for his Botev Plovdiv period are completely false. A further spell with Vidima in 2010-11 only gave him 273 minutes of playing time. Geschichte (talk) 07:29, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Nothing found beyond database. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:15, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The article has remained a stub for almost 2 decades. Virtually no sources exist for this BLP. Fails WP:GNG. Kvinnen (talk) 12:06, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:04, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - one possibly unreliable citation is not enough for a BLP. Ping me if you find and add three better sources. Bearian (talk) 04:28, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1941 Croatian First League

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Unreferenced substub with some stats, the article's prose doesn't even mention what sport it is about (only categories do). This fails WP:V, WP:GNG as well as WP:NOTSTAT _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:29, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Per sources in hr.wiki (includes a book from the local federation). Considering the time period, I believe it is consistent. Svartner (talk) 07:09, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

it.wiki also brings this source [4]. Svartner (talk) 07:10, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Does that source goes beyond reprinting statistics? Can this be expanded beyond a tiny table? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:18, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not needed. AkaruiHikari (talk) 05:51, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Championships from the war era certainly have the most compromised coverage. In my view, a publication from the federation itself and verification by specialized websites that compile tables are what's expected in this case. Svartner (talk) 06:19, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Croatian Football League. Giant Snowman 20:06, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect is not needed, personally i don't see any problems with keeping this article. AkaruiHikari (talk) 12:48, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep i've added a reference. AkaruiHikari (talk) 05:51, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nuruddin Sameer

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Only 3 professional appearances [5] and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 06:20, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:04, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -lack of enough SIGCOV even with additional searches to suggest notability.Lorraine Crane (talk) 23:16, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shinu (footballer)

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Only 4 professional appearances [6] [7] (206 min), and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 06:16, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, was prematurely written and career never panned out. Geschichte (talk) 07:31, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:03, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Basant Singh

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Completely fails in WP:GNG, even on databases lacks information. Svartner (talk) 06:09, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:03, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - one possibly unreliable citation is not enough for a BLP. Ping me if you find and add three better sources. Bearian (talk) 04:26, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vanlalruatfela Thlacheu

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Only 13 professional appearances [8] [9] (930 min) and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 06:05, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:03, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - two citations are not enough for a BLP. Ping me if you find and add one or more better sources. Bearian (talk) 04:26, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Joon-suk

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Not finding any sources, including on the Korean language page, that could establish notability of this person. Most notable is a brief article about his contract signing; not significant coverage. aaronneallucas (talk) 21:31, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Lacks WP:SIGCOV even on ko.wiki. Svartner (talk) 00:00, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:28, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Costa (footballer)

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Trouble finding any mentions of him outside databases. Some other high school players seem to be coming up about as often as him, database-wise. aaronneallucas (talk) 20:47, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – Quite common name, hard to look up. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:28, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:27, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Jin-hyun (footballer, born 1999)

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Struggling to find any serious references, only databases or trivial information sites coming up in searches. aaronneallucas (talk) 20:41, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Even according to ko.wiki he only had 2 professional appearances, and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 23:58, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The correct number is 7 apps in the K1 Legue and 50 apps in the K2 league [10] Geschichte (talk) 07:40, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:27, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isaac Nuhu

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He appears in several articles but only as part of routine game coverage, a few very brief articles about contract extensions, and a few more substantial primary sources (articles written by the team he plays for, which occasionally appears on Google News). I don't think this can qualify for the notability required for sportspeople, since we need 2 substantial works. aaronneallucas (talk) 20:37, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Some sources, I agree that they are brief: [11] [12] [13] [14] Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Giant Snowman 15:26, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Romano Zolin

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Contested PROD. No independent coverage provided. Short football career with just 5 matches. Fails WP:GNG. C 679 20:01, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of FC Basel players – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 23:56, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of FC Basel players, but only if at least one source is found. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:25, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 15:25, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mbappé–Haaland rivalry

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Not a rivalry like Messi-Ronaldo or so, some sources are questionable at best. More a trivia article. Kante4 (talk) 15:05, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, parallel careers being conflated to a "rivalry" by sport-gossip websites. A big factor of Messi-Ronaldo was that they spent the peak of their careers at rival clubs in the same league so there was plenty of direct contact. If Haaland joined Barcelona or Mbappe moved to Liverpool/Man Utd, that may generate more credible coverage to support an article here. Crowsus (talk) 16:20, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Completely made up. Geschichte (talk) 17:27, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no evidence of actual rivalry, only played each other three times at club level and not at all at international level

ColchesterSid (talk) 23:01, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – A forced and arbitrary rivalry would be like creating a Julian Alvarez vs. Vini Jr. or Lamine Yamal vs. Mbappé. Great players will compete all the time, it's natural. Svartner (talk) 23:54, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:25, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging:
- "Just how good are Kylian Mbappé and Erling Haaland?" UEFA.com. 17 February 2021, https://web.archive.org/web/20210303151036/https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0266-1199ef3658d5-145c6798f795-1000--haaland-nears-mbappe-record/#
*"Mbappe or Haaland - who's the new G.O.A.T? Move over Messi and Ronaldo - there are two new G.O.A.Ts in town." BBC. 19 February 2021.

*Oliver Dawnay (25 February 2021). "Erling Haaland and Kylian Mbappe might be the future but Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo have combined age of 69 and top LaLiga and Serie A scoring charts." TalkSport.com, https://talksport.com/football/840084/erling-haaland-kylian-mbappe-lionel-messi-cristiano-ronaldo-age-stats/

*Rajarshi Shukla (19 March 2021). "Kylian Mbappe vs Erling Haaland: Speed | Career Stats | Champions League Stats | Playing Styles." SportCo, https://www.sportco.io/article/kylian-mbappe-vs-erling-haaland-speed-career-stats-champions-league-460725

*Kevin Baxter (26 December 2023). "Kylian Mbappe and Erling Haaland could surpass Messi and Ronaldo as greatest ever." Los Angeles Times, https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/story/2023-12-26/soccer-superstars-kylian-mbappe-erling-haaland-greatest-ever-conversation

*"Erling Haaland: How does the striker compare to Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo & Kylian Mbappe?" Olympics.com. 8 June 2023, https://www.olympics.com/en/news/erling-haaland-how-does-the-striker-compare-to-messi-ronaldo-mbappe

*"Can Kylian Mbappé or Erling Haaland eclipse Cristiano Ronaldo's Champions League record?" TransferMarket.com. 5 November 2025, https://www.transfermarkt.com/can-kylian-mbappe-or-erling-haaland-eclipse-cristiano-ronaldos-champions-league-record-/view/news/433907#, https://www.transfermarkt.com/can-kylian-mbappe-or-erling-haaland-eclipse-cristiano-ronaldos-champions-league-record-/view/news/433907

*Sam Cooper (20 September 2025). "The Haaland vs Mbappé Rivalry is BACK." Score 90, https://score90.com/analysis/the-h aland-vs-mbappe-rivalry-is-back/

Enough? Alexander Makarov 1 (talk) 21:26, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question - @Alexander Makarov 1:, was it your intention to ping GiantSnowman after providing those links you've found? Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 23:15, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To address each link in turn (your formatting / c+p is terrible btw)

(Uefa) Does not mention a rivalry, and frames article as a comparison of the pair with M+R (Messi & Ronaldo)
(BBC, no link provided, but [15]) A news article for children, again compares H+M to M+R
(talksport) Again, compares the pair to M+R, not each other
(Sportco) Looks like WP:UGC site, rather than a WP:RS
(LA Times) Another H+M v M+R article
(Olympic) Compares one specific player (H) to the 3 others mentioned so far
(Transfermarkt) This site is not generally considered as WP:RS due to WP:UGC, and again this article compares M+H to R, rather than directly to each other.
(Score90, link malformed) Finally an article clearly calling it a rivalry, but again does not look like a WP:RS. On their About page they claim that Trough[sic] partnerships with the best in the business we create a cycle of mutual benefit between fans, advertisers, clubs, leagues, federations and players. and one of the options on the Contact Us page is Write for Us suggesting it is WP:UGC

In short, we need more reliable sources discussing a direct rivalry between the pair, rather than just streams of stats. Spike 'em (talk) 10:57, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My formating and much else is terrible and I do not even know what is c+p. I am new to Wikipedia, just tried my first article, and face massive retaliation.

Regarding the comparisons M-H with M-R, I think it makes the new duel more notable. Anyway, almost all sources cited in the old rivalry, write about the new rivalry and I can perhaps double them by sources in languages I read (French, Russian, Hebrew). There are 3 good articles in l'Equipe on the subject. Alexander Makarov 1 (talk) 16:51, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - not notable, see WP:Trivia TheInevitables (talk) 19:00, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – While I agree with WP:Trivia, Wikipedia is not used to have thousands of pages which documents rivalries between any two footballers, not just these two alone. If so, we would have been a lot busier keeping a watchout of them. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 23:15, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I've merged many of the refs on the page, as there were many reused over and over. Many are low quality/ UGC / fan sites, and whilst there are some reliable sources comparing them, it is not enough to call this a rivalry and have a long-winded stats discussion.Spike 'em (talk) 14:05, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Right. I limited sources to avoid overcitation. 5 references for the argument that the two inherited the Messi-Ronaldo rivalry, could be a dozen more.

Dropping what you call not good sources, the list of uncited sources is still too long to list here. The question is how much is enough, where undercitation ends and overcitation begins. But whatever the standard, the media coverage is sufficient on the occasion. Every their record triggers a media salvo comparing where is the other guy in respect to the same milestone.

And if "rivalry" is not the right word, we can call it "race" or whatever the mainstream media massively covers. Alexander Makarov 1 (talk) 16:14, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. WP:TRIVIA in the extreme. Jack (talk) 23:13, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kristiyan Stoyanov

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Nothing to indicate the prior AfDs have been addressed since making the debut does not address the lack of coverage in independent, reliable sources. In fact the draft currently at Draft:Kristiyan Stoyanov is in better shape, albeit with the same notability concerns. Star Mississippi 23:46, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I am sure there are Bulgarian sources, called up to the national team, his contributions for PFC Slavia Sofia. There is a mention on [16], I highly doubt there wouldn't be sources. I find this AfD at odds with that kind of career. Govvy (talk) 10:13, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Also Salt to stop future re-creation. Giant Snowman 11:05, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GiantSnowman it might be helpful to the closer if you clarify whether this one is better than the extant draft or not since "draftify" could otherwise result in two drafts. Star Mississippi 16:52, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be happy to delete this as a duplicate of the draft. Giant Snowman 19:14, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can't find any sources that would make the page more notable. Agnieszka653 (talk) 16:30, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – He started being called up for the national team, there's really nothing about him in Bulgarian? I understand that previous AfDs were due to hasty creation, but now it seems to have some notability/relevance. Svartner (talk) 00:06, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
there is better volume of sourcing in the extant draft @Svartner

I do not read Bulgarian and am not familiar with the sourcing to establish whether it's sufficient. It's still awaiting AfC review and I imagine part of that is language access. Star Mississippi 00:18, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shane Smith (soccer)

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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 17:17, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:04, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, no evidence of notability, I did a quick google search and nothing came up but some statistics pages.
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Delete: No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. Demt1298 (talk) 14:40, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Abo Taleb El Essawi

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Declined PROD. He has a career as an assistant coach but lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 09:26, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pinging @SunloungerFrog:. Svartner (talk) 09:27, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I have not had the time to do it myself, but I understand that @ARandomName123 and Ortizesp had both managed to find some coverage by searching against the subject's name in Arabic. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 11:24, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Let's see what the coverage is. Here is a partial profile [17] Geschichte (talk) 12:51, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:04, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:GNG Agnieszka653 (talk) 17:56, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zylfije Bajramaj

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Declined PROD. Fails in WP:SPORTBASIC and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 09:21, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep German Wikipedia shows 12x national team caps and sources pointing to the UEFA website. Article should be improved not deleted. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:45, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This does not solve the lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 00:44, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:03, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. Demt1298 (talk) 14:41, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep I have found a few sources that I think make this page worth keeping including a mention in the BBC [[18]] Sky Sports [[19]] and ABC Albania [[20]] Agnieszka653 (talk) 18:09, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ADC Ars et Labor Grottaglie

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Unsourced. Fails WP:ORG/WP:NSPORT/WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 06:00, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Per sources in it.wiki. Svartner (talk) 08:56, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak keep If you ask me article needs a total cleanup, there are sources in Italian out there to use. WP:BEFORE is difficult so I understand the nomination. I however feel this article can be a viable edition to Wikipedia and really needs work done on it. Govvy (talk) 09:11, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Svartner. 4meter4, please do better BEFORE searches before nominating an article, including clicking on foreign language wikis when they exist. SportingFlyer T·C 12:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good point on the Italian wiki sources. I should have checked there. That said, WP:NEXIST isn't everything. As a general rule unsourced pages, even when there are materials, aren't allowed to hang around forever. This has been an unsourced article for 19 years. Someone actually needs to put in some verified content (even if it just verifies one or two sentences) or we should just remove all of it. I contemplated redirecting it to Eccellenza Apulia. I may still do that if no article improvement happens. We can't support unsourced material per WP:BURDEN because people can just blank the page in such cases, and be correct in doing so under verifiable rules Facts or claims without an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports[b] them may be removed. They should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source. It would be helpful here for those who understand this sport and its Italian language sources (I don't particularly) to be the ones to take the time to add even just one inline citation. That to me would be sufficient to rescue this if the consensus here is that SIGCOV exists. Best.4meter4 (talk) 12:48, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per arguments above which demonstrate notability. Giant Snowman 19:44, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep AfD not should be used as means to force improvements, it should only be used for articles that do not pass the notability threshold. Clearly an article with 16x WP:RS's on Italian Wikipedia meets this threshold, and given we have articles on most Eccellenza football clubs notability is clearly established. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:42, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Hobbs

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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG adequately. Let'srun (talk) 04:47, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 09:16, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:SIGCOV so fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:43, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG Demt1298 (talk) 03:01, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no WP:SIGCOV and fails WP:GNG Agnieszka653 (talk) 18:16, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will Mejia

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Subject lacks the necessary WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The current sources are all primary and all I could find elsewhere was [[21]] from when the subject was in high school. Let'srun (talk) 02:29, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:SIGCOV so fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:43, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG Demt1298 (talk) 03:03, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Ponder

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only sources in the article now are primary and I couldn't find anything better elsewhere. Let'srun (talk) 21:44, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:43, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG Demt1298 (talk) 03:03, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will Palmquist

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Subject lacks the WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 21:30, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:43, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG Demt1298 (talk) 03:03, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Romero

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV from reliable, independent sources. The only references currently present are primary to the clubs and schools Romero has been at, and I couldn't find anything else to support notability. Let'srun (talk) 21:20, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Well, the Unknown/perma dead links don't help, they seem to point towards a college website, so I'm assuming not a RS. I don't find any sources about this person, and the few we can still open don't show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 01:18, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source 5 seems to be a press release from his college, so that doesn't help. Oaktree b (talk) 01:20, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I took a look at Icelandic sources since Iceland was tagged. I could only find a brief mention of him in one local paper about him participating in a single practice game with ÍBV. [22] There is no evidence he played in any official matches and there is no significant coverage about him. Alvaldi (talk) 11:22, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:42, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG Demt1298 (talk) 03:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Futsal 5 A-Side Australia Interstate Club Championship

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Fails WP:NSPORT/WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 19:12, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Unsourced since 2009, lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 21:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unsourced and a minor competition between non notable teams. LibStar (talk) 22:19, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete No claim to notability at all as well as totally unsourced. May even be fake. Curly Suix (talk) 07:28, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete. Zero sources on both the article and through a google search. Borderline WP:A7 speedy. NotJamestack (✉️|📝) 16:00, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:42, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Unsourced since 2009. Not a notable event. Excelse (talk) 06:36, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete now evidence to suggest this is notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:42, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ebi Sukore

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Absolutely no significant coverage or notability in any sources beyond passing or fully trivial information or routine game coverage. aaronneallucas (talk) 15:17, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:42, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Schiestl

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Absolutely no significant coverage or notability in any sources beyond passing or fully trivial information or routine game coverage. aaronneallucas (talk) 05:48, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – He only played in lower leagues so far. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:30, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not true, he's currently playing the first division in Austria. Not that that's relevant to keeping him...--Ortizesp (talk) 16:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, significant coverage such as this, this, this, and this.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are any of these sources really significant coverage? Three are brief articles about contract extensions and one is a short article about a fight on the field, and a comment about a sport injury. None of these show any significant coverage, in my opinion, but I would like to hear your perspective in justifying these as being significant. aaronneallucas (talk) 01:58, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets WP:SIGCOV. TheInevitables (talk) 18:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Plays in the first division of Austria, clearly passes in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:23, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 21:40, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails GNG. None of the sources above contain sigcov of him. Dougal18 (talk) 14:47, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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James Singh Sargolsem

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Absolutely no significant coverage or notability in any sources beyond passing or fully trivial information or routine game coverage. aaronneallucas (talk) 04:01, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 04:35, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:39, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - essentially an unsourced BLP. The burden is on anybody trying to find sources. Bearian (talk) 02:54, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Gurpanthjeet Singh

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Absolutely no significant coverage or notability in any sources beyond passing or fully trivial information or routine game coverage. aaronneallucas (talk) 04:02, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 04:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:39, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - two references to the same website are not anywhere near sufficient for a BLP. Bearian (talk) 02:55, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 06:33, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ji Sun-mi

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Lacks WP:SIGCOV even on ko.wiki. Svartner (talk) 04:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:40, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete - only two sources are not enough for a BLP. Ping me if you find anything else. Bearian (talk) 03:00, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – According to Korean Wikipedia, her native name is 지선미. Anyway, I support deletion. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:48, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG Demt1298 (talk) 03:04, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 06:33, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

H. Lalbiakthanga

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Only 13 professional appearances and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 04:52, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:40, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) EmilyR34 (talk) 05:28, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alexis Castro (footballer, born 1994)

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Besides stats pages, I can find no coverage whatsoever. No mentions in the news or otherwise. aaronneallucas (talk) 01:49, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – 200+ appearances in the Argentine League [23], and have some coverage [24], [25], [26]. Svartner (talk) 02:27, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets WP:SIGCOV, and has hundreds of appearances in a fully professional league. TheInevitables (talk) 05:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – The sources provided by Svartner are routine announcements. Notability is no longer based on number of appearances. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, passes GNG. Not routine coverage.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:27, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 21:39, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 03:35, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Suraj Mandal (footballer)

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I can find no evidence of this footballers notability. He is largely confined to passing mentions, including one of the article's sources. He has no mention in the other source used in the article. Searches online turned up nothing except that he had been suspended. Not enough to build an article on. [27] aaronneallucas (talk) 01:45, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:22, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:38, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Division 2 Norra

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Fails WP:ORGCRIT/WP:NSPORT.4meter4 (talk) 19:59, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Swedish football division 2 as possible search term. Giant Snowman 21:38, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Container page for a historical second division league, these seasons all have articles, see 1932–33 Swedish football division 2 and we don't have a list of champions anywhere else as far as I can tell so it's not duplicative. See [28]. I can't access historical Swedish newspapers but I'm certain this would have at least some coverage there. SportingFlyer T·C 11:56, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep – Relevant for historical purposes, considering that these are tournaments from the 1930s and 40s. As SportingFlyer mentioned, coverage exists in local newspapers. Svartner (talk) 00:51, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would create an article for Division 2 as a second tier (1928–1986, see sv:Division 2 i fotboll för herrar (1928–1986)), they were 2, 3, or 4 different groups during different time intervals and perhaps include Division 1 as a second tier (1987–1999) as the name change was more of a technicality, the format was exactly the same from 1986 to 1987. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 18:33, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I note that the keep votes are not policy based. There are still zero sources in evidence. The sourcing problems fail WP:NSPORT and WP:ORG. This is a league so it does in fact have to pass WP:ORGCRIT. I request that the closer consider policy in their close and weigh the strength of the arguments. We don't keep articles on organizations without sourcing under policy.4meter4 (talk) 18:44, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Division 1 Västra

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Fails WP:ORGCRIT/WP:NSPORT.4meter4 (talk) 19:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Ettan Fotboll as possible search term. Giant Snowman 21:38, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per my comments in the other AfD - this was a short lived but stand-alone second division in the Swedish leagues, though it would probably be better merged with the other regional leagues comprising the second division as it's always going to be a stub. Some of the references in 1991 in Swedish football would clearly cover this league. SportingFlyer T·C 12:00, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ettan Fotboll#Second tier – The content is a duplicated fork, the list of champions is already in the main article. Svartner (talk) 00:47, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Svartner: that is not the case, it just lists promoted teams. If we merged the champions in that would be acceptable to me. SportingFlyer T·C 18:15, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be fine with a merge as suggested per WP:ATD.4meter4 (talk) 15:07, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of merging to Ettan Fotboll, I would split all pre-2006 content from the current third-tier Ettan Fotboll and create an article for Division 1 as a second tier (1987–1999, see sv:Division 1 i fotboll för herrar (1987–1999)) and perhaps combine it with the Division 2 as a second tier (1928–1986) as the name change was more of a technicality, the format was exactly the same. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:30, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Carlton Ubaezuonu

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More fully fleshed out draft was declined. Refs do not pass WP:SIGCOV, so fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:56, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft From a quick search on google, it seems that there are a lot of sources that show significant coverage. The only problem is that the page is poorly structured and written.
If there are sources, then improve the article... Giant Snowman 21:37, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- Following re write of the article. Fcstmani (talk) 09:51, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ~~- do not Draftify~~ The currently deleted version at Draft:Carlton Ubaezuonu has far better sources than this - not enough to show notability yet - but this version simply has stats and primary sources. It would be far better to resucitate the Draft version than send this one there. Much improved, but I still don't see anything much more than run-of-the-mill sports coverage (Joined club, left club, match reports etc.). Black Kite (talk) 22:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:37, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – The article is in terrible condition, I don't see how draftify will help in this case. Svartner (talk) 21:38, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment– Article has been completely re-written and fixed and better citations have been added. Please correct me if I am wrong and have a look at the article. Fcstmani (talk) 06:29, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - The article now contains multiple sources that give evidence of significant coverage following the rewrite. TheInevitables (talk) 01:03, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article has been improved. Aneirinn (talk) 06:55, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Smithers

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Cannot find evidence of notability. The article uses a single source. Fails WP:GNG. TheInevitables (talk) 19:21, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - clearly notable, with nearly 100 appearances in the Football League. WP:COMMONSENSE applies. A quick Google search shows plenty of sources, although nothing SIGCOV, but that's not surprising given he was active in the 1980s. Giant Snowman 19:38, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Ye, article needs fixing up, it's not really great to have that in main space at the moment. I would say draft unless fixed up. Regards. Govvy (talk) 15:34, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I found sources on him because I have access to offline newspapers. I will be working on the article in the upcoming days. I agree with GiantSnowman, soccer is a major sport in the United Kingdom with a large following, and there was a pre-internet era, when newspapers extensively covered the sport. Shotgun pete (talk) 4:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
Keep – Per above. Svartner (talk) 06:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Return to Draft and wait for those "off-line" sources hereby invoked. Until such time, arguments that the subject's chosen sport is "very popular" or claims about numerous playing appearances are dead in the water. -The Gnome (talk) 14:27, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I have expanded the article and found some sources. I have found more sources and will continue to work on the article throughout the week. Shotgun pete (talk) 5:18, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
Keep as per WP:HEY. Bearian (talk) 04:40, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2007 ANAPROF Clausura

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Tagged as unreferenced since 2009. Not clear the event passes WP:NEVENT, WP:GNG, or WP:NSPORT.4meter4 (talk) 13:07, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Liga Panameña de Fútbol until sources are found. Giant Snowman 18:22, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Liga Panameña de Fútbol, is an agreeable ATD, currently lacks enough SIGCOV to support standalone notability.Lorraine Crane (talk) 16:57, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Come on, everyone, actually do a BEFORE search. This season was one of the two seasons of the top flight of Panamanian football in 2007. It's just poorly sourced at the moment, but they clearly exist: [29] [30] [31] [32] SportingFlyer T·C 12:07, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per SportingFlyer sources. Svartner (talk) 00:53, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2007 ANAPROF Apertura

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Unreferenced since 2009. Not clear if this passes WP:NSPORT, WP:NEVENT, or WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 04:43, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per my comments in 2007 ANAPROF Clausura. This was the top flight of Panamanian football for this season and there are sources available as there would be for the Clausura. Please do a better BEFORE search before nominating these. SportingFlyer T·C 12:11, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MUSTBESOURCES isn't a valid argument. Unsourced content also can't hang around forever. We are approaching 19 years (created in 2007) of no verified content. Time to delete this or redirect the page per a suitable WP:ATD. WP:BURDEN is a thing here as unsourced pages can under policy be blanked no matter how much WP:NEXIST is out there (which so far nobody has established; name the sources with publication information or give urls and preferably take the time to verify at least one sentence of text).4meter4 (talk) 13:03, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't make a MUSTBESOURCES argument, I found sources for the Clausura season in the other AfD. The exact same sources will exist for Apertura. SportingFlyer T·C 18:14, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Travis Bowen

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I could not find WP:SIGCOV to establish WP:GNG. The best I could find were interviews he had with Urban Pitch. However, there is a possibility for sources from Albania, North Macedonia, and Spain as he played in those three countries that I was unable to locate. Raskuly (talk) 05:05, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:07, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No WP:SIGCOV so fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:20, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. Demt1298 (talk) 03:14, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I expanded the article from a sub and found some sources to help qualify it for WP:GNG. Sources to help to establish notability are this, this, this, this, this, Curley, Joe (27 May 2012). "Fusion Dominate Seahorses before game with Chivas". Ventura County Star - which does in-depth about the player, and "Oxnard bios - Travis Bowen". Ventura County Star - summarizes his season. Not to mention, numerous other secondary sources routinely mention him. Shotgun pete (talk) 21:58, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't read much of source 1, but it does not appear to be about Bowen specifically, but rather Detroit City players as a whole. Source 2 is not independent of the subject as it is a student newspaper for the school he works at. Source 3 is a routine transfer announcement and not entirely about Bowen. Source 4 and 5 are primarily about Rafa Melo and the mention of Bowen does not go further than saying they were giving him a trial. I'm not sure where to read the Ventura County Star sources. Raskuly (talk) 05:42, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - @GiantSnowman:, @UtherSRG:, @Demt1298:, Per above. Has sources and fully professional experience. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 11:04, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Which of the sources above are SIGCOV? I agree with Raskuly's analysis above, although no issues from me re:student paper. Also professional experience totally irrelevant to notability. Giant Snowman 11:15, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Again, this goes back to the Alec Díaz article, which Raskuly nominated for deletion. The sources that saved the article from deletion were these link, link, link, link, link, link. The ones provided for this article are very similar in nature to the ones used in the Diaz article. Yet there were no objections, and the Diaz article was allowed to pass as notable. How is that considered fair when the Travis Bowen article has been improved and has more independent, reliable, secondary sources than the Diaz article? The Diaz article contains more primary sources than secondary sources. Not to mention it has received basically the same amount of coverage. Also, offline sources (WP:SOURCEACCESS) are also acceptable and should not be dismissed because some people don't have access to them. Shotgun pete (talk) 14:57, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not dismissing them which is why I didn't cast judgement on them. Where can I read it? I think the first four Díaz links are better than Bowen's 1-5 sources. Raskuly (talk) 15:27, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't mean that offline sources should be ignored or considered invalid. The first source used in the Diaz article link is a routine match summary with Diaz not even being the sole focus of the story. While in the Travis Bowen article, there are two similar sources,

Curley, Joe (10 October 2012). "Oxnard shuts out rival". Ventura County Star. pp. 5C. - Where Bowen records two goals against Oxnard College rivals Moorpark.

Curley, Joe (18 November 2012). "Oxnard men upset at home". Ventura County Star. pp. 5C. - The college team is defeated in the playoff quarterfinal, where Bowen is mentioned several times.

Now, the second source used in Diaz's article link is considered by some editors to be a routine transfer announcement. Why is that source considered better than the Urban Pitch one used in Bowen's article?

The third Diaz source link is similar to "Oxnard bios - Travis Bowen". Ventura County Star. 30 December 2012. pp. 4C, which summarizes his successful season, and there is a second one named "Oxnard's Bowen named soccer player of the year". Ventura County Star. 6 January 2013. pp. 5C, a much shorter one that still highlights his achievement.

The final Diaz source link is a national team callup, where he is not even the sole focus of the article. Not much different than this one, and this one.

I fail to see how the sources used in the Diaz one are that vastly superior to qualify for WP:SIGCOV while the ones used in the Bowen article are not. Shotgun pete (talk) 23:30, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I'm not dismissing, ignoring, or invalidating the Ventura County Star sources. Whatever terminology you decide to use, I'm not doing that. I just wanted to read them. ~~I'll just take your word for it about the description of these sources and change my assessment to keep.~~ Raskuly (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman:, @UtherSRG:, @Demt1298:, see above. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 08:41, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Again, which of those are significant coverage??? The 10 October 2012 looks to be a match report, for example. Giant Snowman 11:47, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I'm not seeing the required WP:SIGCOV from reliable, independent sources about the subject. What independent sources have been presented appear to be routine match reports. Let'srun (talk) 05:01, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Stamatis Kalamiotis

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Discovered via a WP:RM/TR request over an incorrect name that resulted in two duplicate pages (this and Michalis Kalamiotis). It looks like the same editor created both, and over the years tried to blank Michalis Kalamiotis for being incorrect. Regardless, this player is not notable per WP:NSPORT. He barely squeaked by when WP:NFOOTY was accepted, as it looks like he had a single cup appearance for 46 minutes per his entry on the top flight team AEK Athens. All loans and subsequent teams were not in the top flight when he played there according to the Super League season pages. The only notable honor listed is the Greek Cup win--the aforementioned single 46-minute appearance, apparently in the first round, which isn't sourced anywhere, except via digging through the unsourced wiki links. Bottom line, the new notability standards require significant coverage of the player (not just database/team entries), which I cannot find. Recommend deletion, and the duplicate entry will go via WP:G8 as well. 2pou (talk) 18:08, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I will cover the article about sources text and the player's career. I will appreciate if you withdraw your proposition in order to work on it. Best reguards! BEN917 (talk) 22:05, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I believe now the article is covered at there is no reason to be deleted. Thank you! BEN917 (talk) 22:43, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:BEN917 I just perused the sources and have not found anything that is unambiguously significant coverage. Many of the sources only provide brief coverage, passing mentions or are database entries. Only [33] is close, and even then still brief. Do you know of any other sources that cover the subject in detail? ~2025-31245-28 (talk) 15:50, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And the name of that source: AEKpedia makes me question its reliability. I can't find any masthead for editorial oversight. -2pou (talk) 18:22, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:07, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What more coverage is needed? The first and second division are considered professional football. BEN917 (talk) 16:05, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@BEN917, to be considered significant coverage, the sources should be spending a good amount of the prose discussing the player himself as opposed to the team and then noting that he was on the squad for a given game, etc. Just playing for a professional team is not considered notable enough for an article anymore. If the article covers a match, it might be usable if a paragraph or so is spent discussing his play, what his strengths were, or where he was exposed, etc. In short: the prose should be spent discussing the player as opposed to mentioning the player when it's really talking about a larger topic (my low bar is WP:100WORDS about the player himself). -2pou (talk) 18:21, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have made further improvements. Please check them and tell me if I'm in a good path and what else is needed in order for the article of being okay. BEN917 (talk) 11:48, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think what is needed is more just sources that qualify for WP:GNG, rather than directly improving the article per se, see WP:CONTN. I will say I am quite impressed with what you have accomplished given the limitations of the sourcing. I got a 404 or two so I did not examine quite everything, but reviewing the new sources, [34] is the best and still rather limited, [35] is an interview which is useful but does not count toward the notability requirement. Everything else was too brief in terms of its coverage of the subject to qualify. Let me know if I missed anything. ~2025-31245-28 (talk) 15:59, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I proceeded in further improvements. I believe the article now meets the requirements of notability even to a bare minimum so that the delete notice to be removed. Keep me informed if anything else is needed. Thank you for your help. @GiantSnowman@~2025-31245-28 BEN917 (talk) 12:31, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@BEN917, you need to include the user mentions with your initial edit with a signature in order for the ping to go through. Unfortunately, you can’t just edit a ping into a previous post. Here’s a courtesy ping for you @GiantSnowman, @~2025-31245-28. You used to not be able to ping IPs… not sure if the new Temporary Accounts support pings.
Now eegarding your improvements, because they are primarily in Greek, could you pick out the WP:THREE best sources you think discuss Kalamiotis himself? I usually think two good ones is enough to satisfy “multiple” in WP:GNG, but picking three would help make sure to hit that if one isn’t quite there. -2pou (talk) 14:59, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, I would not say we necessarily need to have the three best sources in existence, but at a minimum at least two that qualify for GNG, meaning having significant coverage etc. If they could be linked here that would be helpful for everyone I think.

On the other topic the pings do work now. Perhaps the only way in which the new interface is better. ~2025-31245-28 (talk) 15:51, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For the avoidance of any doubt, level of professional play is irrelevant. I do not speak Greek so cannot properly assess the sources. Which of them are significant coverage? Giant Snowman 18:40, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
References from [4] to [16], [18], from [20] to [25] and from [27] to [33] cover all of his career in terms of transfers, debuts and first goals. Among them there are articles with his interviews and articles that talk about him and his career. BEN917 (talk) 08:23, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If I had to pick 3 it would be:
The article that talks about his until then career

His interview in 2010

The article when he was acquired by Aiolikos

They satisfy the WP:GNG even if they aren't that big. Thus the article is covered in terms of notabilty. Regards! BEN917 (talk) 08:38, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:18, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:38, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The sources in the article show significant coverage of the subject, as such WP:GNG is met. TheInevitables (talk) 00:13, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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