Studying psychiatry, I started wondering: what if it’s all fake? The history of psychiatry is truly horrifying! Have you ever heard of people like Franco Basaglia, Ronald David Laing, Thomas Szasz, David Cooper, Giorgio Antonucci, Michel Foucault, Erving Goffman, Félix Guattari, Phyllis Chesler, or Peter Breggin?

Did you know that electroconvulsive therapy, aminazine, and haloperidol are still used on children to this day?

It made me think: what in our world is actually a lie, and what is the truth?
I wonder if there are many books written about conspiracy theories? (Probably yes, but I’d like to read specifically realistic ones, if anyone knows any).
In general, I wonder if there is a single person out there who believes they know exactly how our world works?

It’s funny, all of this probably already sounds like something crazy, doesn't it? But you're interested, aren't you?

Is our world rigged? Is everything honest in science? In engineering? In physics? In chemistry? What if most logical conspiracy theories are actually true? I was thinking, maybe I should write a book about this? But to be honest, I'm scared to death to write a book about it, ha-ha-ha-ha.

I want to write about a flawed world secretly controlled by evil cartels, an order of pedophiles, metallurgical and oil conglomerates, punitive psychiatry, evil pharmaceutical companies, and corrupt military and secret services—though good ones exist too. The internet and the LGBT community are banned there. There is secret racism.

And then I thought... what if I actually decide to write a book about conspiracy theories, gather absolutely every single one I know, and—let's say—accidentally guess the truth? Could they come after me, torture me, or kill me?

And remember the theory that Michael Jackson slept with kids and that many people in Hollywood sleep with kids? Everyone who talked about it was laughed at and called crazy, and then we found out about Jeffrey Epstein.

Yes, I get it! The fear of searches and interrogations is powerful! I also thought about this from a bureaucratic standpoint: if they start a search or an interrogation, they can't just stop, because then they'd have to admit they were wrong or made a mistake. Maybe it’s just easier for them to frame a person somehow to avoid taking the blame, rather than apologizing and letting them go if they don't find anything valuable? Have you thought about that?

I feel like society is capable of destroying any ordinary person if they get in the way, even if they don't do it on purpose, but just for entertainment. Most people live their whole lives in a tiny world with ponies painted on the walls. Even the fact that we are talking about this right now is already a very serious manifestation of willpower and a struggle against fear. I think the greatest danger to a person is other people. It seems to me that what we are writing here already looks suspicious, and someone is reading it. Well, I can wave hello to them! I wonder, do you have a boring job, or do you actually like it?

But I found the perfect loophole! I would just say, "Well, you guys made the internet the way it is yourself, and you invented psychiatry yourselves—no one will believe it anyway, and no one will care, right?" If you're afraid of me, it just means you're weak yourselves, doesn't it? Besides, if you torture me or try to kill me, that might actually fuel people's interest, agree?

Or maybe I should just say that Jeffrey Epstein was an alien, or that aliens were controlling him? I feel like adding aliens instantly makes any idea absurd, right? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

But imagine the most hilarious theory: aliens actually arrive on Earth, and everyone who talks about them gets locked up in a mental asylum. The aliens try their hardest to prove they are real, but everyone around them just calls them fraudsters! They demonstrate their superpowers and technologies, but everyone brushes it off, saying it's just special effects and CGI.

In the end, the aliens just give up, flip Earth the bird, and fly away saying, "These idiots are so brainwashed that there's no point in even trying to talk to them. Their ruling elites sleep with underage girls and probably even eat them, but they will never believe in aliens."

What if aliens have actually already visited like that, but absolutely no one believed them? Hahaha.

So maybe, I don't know, for starters I'll just write about it here, since probably almost no one reads this forum anyway, hahaha. I also thought about the style where people usually express this kind of stuff—it's usually Cyberpunk or Heavy Metal.

What conspiracy theories do you believe in, for example?

Hmmmm

What?

A conspiracy theory implies it's been tested and the explanation holds up under scrutiny. Shouldn't they be called conspiracy hypotheses?

LaughingTarget Wrote: A conspiracy theory implies it's been tested and the explanation holds up under scrutiny. Shouldn't they be called conspiracy hypotheses?

That would imply there was a level of honesty or thought put into it.

Most people ignore or don't realize **it**. But there's an enlightened minority who does notice.

My favourite quote to summarize **it** is this:

When a gang member is promoted, they become a gang boss. When a gang boss is promoted, they become a world leader-

-Nice try, CIA agent. But you won't anything more out of me. You glow too much.

SkyDirigible Wrote: It’s funny, all of this probably already sounds like something crazy, doesn't it?

Yes.

SkyDirigible Wrote: But you're interested, aren't you?

No.

Nothing is stranger than reality, we don't need to make stuff up.

Research quantum entanglement theory (information can travel instantly across any distance, so faster than the speed of light which is supposed to be impossible) and how it supports the theory we are living in a simulation.

It's absolutely nuts, but it makes sense.

Statistically we are more likely to be in a simulation than base reality.

Humans are already generating simulations, eventually they should become indistinguishable from reality. At that point we will generate billions of simulations that appear to be real. If we aren't living in a simulation (this is base reality), that will mean of the billions of simulations we will create in the future, our reality is the only real one.

I'm an atheist, but the above supports the hypothesis that there is a creator. We could be in the equivalent of a little kids bedroom and we are a Tamagotchi the kids got bored of.

SkyDirigible Wrote: Studying psychiatry, I started wondering: what if it’s all fake? The history of psychiatry is truly horrifying! Have you ever heard of people like Franco Basaglia, Ronald David Laing, Thomas Szasz, David Cooper, Giorgio Antonucci, Michel Foucault, Erving Goffman, Félix Guattari, Phyllis Chesler, or Peter Breggin?

Did you know that electroconvulsive therapy, aminazine, and haloperidol are still used on children to this day?

It made me think: what in our world is actually a lie, and what is the truth?
I wonder if there are many books written about conspiracy theories? (Probably yes, but I’d like to read specifically realistic ones, if anyone knows any).
In general, I wonder if there is a single person out there who believes they know exactly how our world works?

It’s funny, all of this probably already sounds like something crazy, doesn't it? But you're interested, aren't you?

Is our world rigged? Is everything honest in science? In engineering? In physics? In chemistry? What if most logical conspiracy theories are actually true? I was thinking, maybe I should write a book about this? But to be honest, I'm scared to death to write a book about it, ha-ha-ha-ha.

I want to write about a flawed world secretly controlled by evil cartels, an order of pedophiles, metallurgical and oil conglomerates, punitive psychiatry, evil pharmaceutical companies, and corrupt military and secret services—though good ones exist too. The internet and the LGBT community are banned there. There is secret racism.

And then I thought... what if I actually decide to write a book about conspiracy theories, gather absolutely every single one I know, and—let's say—accidentally guess the truth? Could they come after me, torture me, or kill me?

And remember the theory that Michael Jackson slept with kids and that many people in Hollywood sleep with kids? Everyone who talked about it was laughed at and called crazy, and then we found out about Jeffrey Epstein.

Yes, I get it! The fear of searches and interrogations is powerful! I also thought about this from a bureaucratic standpoint: if they start a search or an interrogation, they can't just stop, because then they'd have to admit they were wrong or made a mistake. Maybe it’s just easier for them to frame a person somehow to avoid taking the blame, rather than apologizing and letting them go if they don't find anything valuable? Have you thought about that?

I feel like society is capable of destroying any ordinary person if they get in the way, even if they don't do it on purpose, but just for entertainment. Most people live their whole lives in a tiny world with ponies painted on the walls. Even the fact that we are talking about this right now is already a very serious manifestation of willpower and a struggle against fear. I think the greatest danger to a person is other people. It seems to me that what we are writing here already looks suspicious, and someone is reading it. Well, I can wave hello to them! I wonder, do you have a boring job, or do you actually like it?

But I found the perfect loophole! I would just say, "Well, you guys made the internet the way it is yourself, and you invented psychiatry yourselves—no one will believe it anyway, and no one will care, right?" If you're afraid of me, it just means you're weak yourselves, doesn't it? Besides, if you torture me or try to kill me, that might actually fuel people's interest, agree?

Or maybe I should just say that Jeffrey Epstein was an alien, or that aliens were controlling him? I feel like adding aliens instantly makes any idea absurd, right? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

But imagine the most hilarious theory: aliens actually arrive on Earth, and everyone who talks about them gets locked up in a mental asylum. The aliens try their hardest to prove they are real, but everyone around them just calls them fraudsters! They demonstrate their superpowers and technologies, but everyone brushes it off, saying it's just special effects and CGI.

In the end, the aliens just give up, flip Earth the bird, and fly away saying, "These idiots are so brainwashed that there's no point in even trying to talk to them. Their ruling elites sleep with underage girls and probably even eat them, but they will never believe in aliens."

What if aliens have actually already visited like that, but absolutely no one believed them? Hahaha.

So maybe, I don't know, for starters I'll just write about it here, since probably almost no one reads this forum anyway, hahaha. I also thought about the style where people usually express this kind of stuff—it's usually Cyberpunk or Heavy Metal.

What conspiracy theories do you believe in, for example?

So this is my jam... so much so -- that I am writing a fantasy about them. So off the wall ones. 

Okay - so first:
Area 51 - I think there are some weird things that go on there.
Simpson Cartoons predicting the future?  - yeah... feels weird... but kind of buy in to it.
Strangest one ever - Why are there pictures of Dinosaurs in caves...were those dragons? (Okay, I know that one is WEIRD)
Aliens - magical creatures (like Fae) and just hiding (this I don't believe just a sinister throw over to my book.. and I'm really sorry)
Government hiding some things - what I don't know (not 9/11... too obvious. More like Roman mob ...wooing the public to distract to do stuff in the background kind of stuff)


That's probably enough.

Greyson Locke Wrote:

SkyDirigible Wrote: Studying psychiatry, I started wondering: what if it’s all fake? The history of psychiatry is truly horrifying! Have you ever heard of people like Franco Basaglia, Ronald David Laing, Thomas Szasz, David Cooper, Giorgio Antonucci, Michel Foucault, Erving Goffman, Félix Guattari, Phyllis Chesler, or Peter Breggin?

Did you know that electroconvulsive therapy, aminazine, and haloperidol are still used on children to this day?

It made me think: what in our world is actually a lie, and what is the truth?
I wonder if there are many books written about conspiracy theories? (Probably yes, but I’d like to read specifically realistic ones, if anyone knows any).
In general, I wonder if there is a single person out there who believes they know exactly how our world works?

It’s funny, all of this probably already sounds like something crazy, doesn't it? But you're interested, aren't you?

Is our world rigged? Is everything honest in science? In engineering? In physics? In chemistry? What if most logical conspiracy theories are actually true? I was thinking, maybe I should write a book about this? But to be honest, I'm scared to death to write a book about it, ha-ha-ha-ha.

I want to write about a flawed world secretly controlled by evil cartels, an order of pedophiles, metallurgical and oil conglomerates, punitive psychiatry, evil pharmaceutical companies, and corrupt military and secret services—though good ones exist too. The internet and the LGBT community are banned there. There is secret racism.

And then I thought... what if I actually decide to write a book about conspiracy theories, gather absolutely every single one I know, and—let's say—accidentally guess the truth? Could they come after me, torture me, or kill me?

And remember the theory that Michael Jackson slept with kids and that many people in Hollywood sleep with kids? Everyone who talked about it was laughed at and called crazy, and then we found out about Jeffrey Epstein.

Yes, I get it! The fear of searches and interrogations is powerful! I also thought about this from a bureaucratic standpoint: if they start a search or an interrogation, they can't just stop, because then they'd have to admit they were wrong or made a mistake. Maybe it’s just easier for them to frame a person somehow to avoid taking the blame, rather than apologizing and letting them go if they don't find anything valuable? Have you thought about that?

I feel like society is capable of destroying any ordinary person if they get in the way, even if they don't do it on purpose, but just for entertainment. Most people live their whole lives in a tiny world with ponies painted on the walls. Even the fact that we are talking about this right now is already a very serious manifestation of willpower and a struggle against fear. I think the greatest danger to a person is other people. It seems to me that what we are writing here already looks suspicious, and someone is reading it. Well, I can wave hello to them! I wonder, do you have a boring job, or do you actually like it?

But I found the perfect loophole! I would just say, "Well, you guys made the internet the way it is yourself, and you invented psychiatry yourselves—no one will believe it anyway, and no one will care, right?" If you're afraid of me, it just means you're weak yourselves, doesn't it? Besides, if you torture me or try to kill me, that might actually fuel people's interest, agree?

Or maybe I should just say that Jeffrey Epstein was an alien, or that aliens were controlling him? I feel like adding aliens instantly makes any idea absurd, right? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

But imagine the most hilarious theory: aliens actually arrive on Earth, and everyone who talks about them gets locked up in a mental asylum. The aliens try their hardest to prove they are real, but everyone around them just calls them fraudsters! They demonstrate their superpowers and technologies, but everyone brushes it off, saying it's just special effects and CGI.

In the end, the aliens just give up, flip Earth the bird, and fly away saying, "These idiots are so brainwashed that there's no point in even trying to talk to them. Their ruling elites sleep with underage girls and probably even eat them, but they will never believe in aliens."

What if aliens have actually already visited like that, but absolutely no one believed them? Hahaha.

So maybe, I don't know, for starters I'll just write about it here, since probably almost no one reads this forum anyway, hahaha. I also thought about the style where people usually express this kind of stuff—it's usually Cyberpunk or Heavy Metal.

What conspiracy theories do you believe in, for example?

So this is my jam... so much so -- that I am writing a fantasy about them. So off the wall ones. 

Okay - so first:
Area 51 - I think there are some weird things that go on there.
Simpson Cartoons predicting the future?  - yeah... feels weird... but kind of buy in to it.
Strangest one ever - Why are there pictures of Dinosaurs in caves...were those dragons? (Okay, I know that one is WEIRD)
Aliens - magical creatures (like Fae) and just hiding (this I don't believe just a sinister throw over to my book.. and I'm really sorry)
Government hiding some things - what I don't know (not 9/11... too obvious. More like Roman mob ...wooing the public to distract to do stuff in the background kind of stuff)


That's probably enough. ---So reply to a reply - this is mostly supposed to be humorous... and after reading it. I can see if I am banned. If I am .... it was nice meeting all you fince folks.

LaughingTarget Wrote: A conspiracy theory implies it's been tested and the explanation holds up under scrutiny. Shouldn't they be called conspiracy hypotheses?

Problem with this is that a hypothesis is often built to be either proven or disproven/supported or unsupported through testing, whereas conspiracy theories are often literally built upon the thinking that a lack of evidence can be considered evidence

Artemy Mandus Wrote:

LaughingTarget Wrote: A conspiracy theory implies it's been tested and the explanation holds up under scrutiny. Shouldn't they be called conspiracy hypotheses?

Problem with this is that a hypothesis is often built to be either proven or disproven/supported or unsupported through testing, whereas conspiracy theories are often literally built upon the thinking that a lack of evidence can be considered evidence

Not everything in life can be proven through trial and error. If you spend your life trying to prove everything, and refusing anything that isn't proven, you'll get nowhere.

You can't prove what you want to learn, you can't prove what job is best for you, you can't prove who you should marry, you can't prove any of the major beliefs... etc. Your life is limited: you only live so long, you only have so much money, you only have so many chances to choose... 

You have to find a method that estimates the best choice, without trial and error. This is the point of using honour, trust, gut feelings, beliefs, doctrines, etc for decision making. And no matter which of these decision methods you use, you find out a terrible truth, which is- [REDACTED]

...

Haha, I was just joking. I'm alright now. I love the Royal Road mods. I love the government. Banks, schools, globalism forever!

Summarize it in 5 words or less.

Evercrest Wrote: Summarize it in 5 words or less.

Are conspiracy theories real?

Mr. President Wrote: Are conspiracy theories real?

Theoretically.

Evercrest Wrote:

Mr. President Wrote: Are conspiracy theories real?

Theoretically.

No! I don't know anything! Don't look at me! 
It wasn't me. I mean, it couldn't be. I mean, you're imagining things. 
 this is just a dream... 

Just figured out how to reply using the reply at the bottom and not the quote feature. 

I also just learned how to spell NOOB. 

To contribute further to the discussion... Conspiracy theories to me, are a curiosity. The reason why is that I like to study history, and the thinkers of the past have questioned things going on during the present. I'm not sure at the time people necessarily called them conspiracies; however, for lack of a categorical reference, that is how I think of them. I especially find it interesting when some theories turn out to be more reasonable than not. 

Greyson Locke Wrote: I also just learned how to spell NOOB.

It's spelled n00b.

LaughingTarget Wrote:

Greyson Locke Wrote: I also just learned how to spell NOOB.

It's spelled n00b.


GOT IT! ;)

LaughingTarget Wrote: A conspiracy theory implies it's been tested and the explanation holds up under scrutiny. Shouldn't they be called conspiracy hypotheses?

I am writing this using a translator because I don't know English. I checked with an AI to see if it was correct, and it turned out to be right. Look, you might not like conspiracy theories, but I'm not forcing you to read this, right?