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lang-bash
declare name
followed bydeclare -p name
yields “bash: declare: name: not found”. (Althoughdeclare -p | grep na
yieldsdeclare -- name
.) (2) I believe that it’s a little bit misleading to presentecho "${name-isunset}"
in the context ofdeclare name
, inasmuch as it treats an undeclared (i.e., undefined) variable the same as a declared but unset variable. (3) You might want to mention that namerefs are available only in bash version 4.3 and higher.GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
on Arch Linux still yields the results I showed. Maybe that behavior has been introduced only recently, I'll investigate that.declare x
doesn't setx
, whiledeclare x=
does. I couldn't find any reference to back the assertion thatdeclare -- x
(as output ofdeclare -p x
) means "not set", whiledeclare -- x=""
means "set"; thus I brought in the${parameter-word}
expansion, even if it cannot discriminate between "unset" and "doesn't exist", as you point out. I'm not sure how can I clarify this in my answer (without distracting the reader from the point), though.--
means sincehelp declare
doesn't show about that, ininfo bash
it says "each builtin command documented as accepting options preceded by '-' accepts '--' to signify the end of the options". 2. The doc also says "If a variable name is followed by =VALUE, the value of the variable is set to VALUE" which may implicitly mean if not, then not set.