Great show of maturity.
(Crossposted from DeviantArt for those of you who only see me here.)
Well, that's a lovely comment on my front page:
The user LCnS told me "My work is not your personal soapbox. Stay away."
And yet all I did was respond to his opinion with my own. He posted a nude image of a girl that ended up on the front page of DeviantArt. Yes, her breasts were covered by her arms - but that doesn't make her not nude and she still will offend the sensibilities of a significant amount of people. We have a mature filter for that.
Yet this person was somehow upset at being told by numerous users that the work should be marked as mature. As if it was some great insult to be told "Some people don't want to see nudity, could you please filter it?" He said, and I quote, "I went back and flagged this as mature because apparently it's "ideologically sensitive". I used the process of elimination, because the photo does not contain nudity, sexual themes, violence/gore or strong language. Most of you get it, some of you just don't. For those that don't, keep your sensitive ideology to yourself."
I just don't get it - the mature filter has ALWAYS been there for nude pictures and sometimes even not nude pictures, depending on what the person in them is wearing. How is it that people requesting that you filter your work so that younger/more sensitive audiences aren't forced to stumble across it when it shows on DA's front page is somehow a pain in the butt to you? Honestly.
The other frustrating thing was the great number of people commenting things like "Oh, you people need to grow up! It's JUST nudity!" Good grief, are you really that calloused to what matters to other people? Just because YOU don't care that it's a naked person doesn't mean you get to shove that same stance down someone else's throat. Just filter mature work and if you don't care, set your DeviantArt account to automatically show mature work without the filter. That way people WITH filters turned ON can be protected from things they'd rather not see, and the people who don't care and turn the filters OFF aren't affected either.
Sheesh.
So then this guy not only blocks me from being able to respond to him at all after he declared I was using the comment under his page as a soapbox, he hid the comment that I made. Evidently the man cannot handle a differing opinion. Which, you know, then what is he doing on the internet? :D
Seriously though. Take a look at this.
First we have a user who AGREES with the artist that it's stupid that people are wanting a mature content filter on the art.
"*NatziYeti 4 hours ago
Because this photo shows so little of anything of offensive nature it really doesn't deserve a maturity tag. Those tags are meant for full-on nudes showing genitalia and nipples. Please don't abuse them by marking anything that shows as much skin as you would see in a bikini as "mature and offensive" because in all reality, it isn't.
To those of you who can't seem to understand the difference between tasteful nudes and nude studies, seriously, grow up. Take an art history class, you'll find much worse throughout history. What are you going to do, demand that the Venus DiMilo be censored? What about the David? Get over yourselves. I don't know about you, but I appreciate art for the meaning, not necessarily the content. A few of you should really take that to heart."
So, is this person soap boxing, despite being up on a high horse and scolding and scorning the rest of us about how we need to get used to it? No, no, of course not, because their opinion matches the artist's opinion!
Then, we have a response from someone who sees things from my perspective:
"=Hajdarevic 1 hour ago
People think different! Some may find this offensive some may not. It's not up to you to tell people what is offensive and what's not! You may find an autopsy disgusting while others may find it interesting. We are different! Some may find this offensive and that's where the mature filter comes in.
See it like this. Those who doesn't want to see this kind of stuff have the mature filter on so there's actually no loss of viewers! They probably wouldn't clicked on it anyway."
Guess what? This second person got told the EXACT same thing, word for word, by the artist - they were told not to use the artist's page a soap box.
Funny how that works, huh?
To quote all those idiots moaning and whining about those who would rather not look at naked people, artistic or not: "Grow up, people."
Well, that's a lovely comment on my front page:
The user LCnS told me "My work is not your personal soapbox. Stay away."
And yet all I did was respond to his opinion with my own. He posted a nude image of a girl that ended up on the front page of DeviantArt. Yes, her breasts were covered by her arms - but that doesn't make her not nude and she still will offend the sensibilities of a significant amount of people. We have a mature filter for that.
Yet this person was somehow upset at being told by numerous users that the work should be marked as mature. As if it was some great insult to be told "Some people don't want to see nudity, could you please filter it?" He said, and I quote, "I went back and flagged this as mature because apparently it's "ideologically sensitive". I used the process of elimination, because the photo does not contain nudity, sexual themes, violence/gore or strong language. Most of you get it, some of you just don't. For those that don't, keep your sensitive ideology to yourself."
I just don't get it - the mature filter has ALWAYS been there for nude pictures and sometimes even not nude pictures, depending on what the person in them is wearing. How is it that people requesting that you filter your work so that younger/more sensitive audiences aren't forced to stumble across it when it shows on DA's front page is somehow a pain in the butt to you? Honestly.
The other frustrating thing was the great number of people commenting things like "Oh, you people need to grow up! It's JUST nudity!" Good grief, are you really that calloused to what matters to other people? Just because YOU don't care that it's a naked person doesn't mean you get to shove that same stance down someone else's throat. Just filter mature work and if you don't care, set your DeviantArt account to automatically show mature work without the filter. That way people WITH filters turned ON can be protected from things they'd rather not see, and the people who don't care and turn the filters OFF aren't affected either.
Sheesh.
So then this guy not only blocks me from being able to respond to him at all after he declared I was using the comment under his page as a soapbox, he hid the comment that I made. Evidently the man cannot handle a differing opinion. Which, you know, then what is he doing on the internet? :D
Seriously though. Take a look at this.
First we have a user who AGREES with the artist that it's stupid that people are wanting a mature content filter on the art.
"*NatziYeti 4 hours ago
Because this photo shows so little of anything of offensive nature it really doesn't deserve a maturity tag. Those tags are meant for full-on nudes showing genitalia and nipples. Please don't abuse them by marking anything that shows as much skin as you would see in a bikini as "mature and offensive" because in all reality, it isn't.
To those of you who can't seem to understand the difference between tasteful nudes and nude studies, seriously, grow up. Take an art history class, you'll find much worse throughout history. What are you going to do, demand that the Venus DiMilo be censored? What about the David? Get over yourselves. I don't know about you, but I appreciate art for the meaning, not necessarily the content. A few of you should really take that to heart."
So, is this person soap boxing, despite being up on a high horse and scolding and scorning the rest of us about how we need to get used to it? No, no, of course not, because their opinion matches the artist's opinion!
Then, we have a response from someone who sees things from my perspective:
"=Hajdarevic 1 hour ago
People think different! Some may find this offensive some may not. It's not up to you to tell people what is offensive and what's not! You may find an autopsy disgusting while others may find it interesting. We are different! Some may find this offensive and that's where the mature filter comes in.
See it like this. Those who doesn't want to see this kind of stuff have the mature filter on so there's actually no loss of viewers! They probably wouldn't clicked on it anyway."
Guess what? This second person got told the EXACT same thing, word for word, by the artist - they were told not to use the artist's page a soap box.
Funny how that works, huh?
To quote all those idiots moaning and whining about those who would rather not look at naked people, artistic or not: "Grow up, people."