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Question of correct naming and spelling in English, translating Polish

Greetings to all! I copy discussion from talk page of --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here}and also from article Heraldic family. I invite You to discuss this matter to reach consensus.

Flag of Bolivia

This article’s sentences inconsistently use both British and American spelling. I’ve made a to-do list for this article and nominated it for improvement. I’ve also notified WikiProject Bolivia (high-importance), which as I’m aware, is believed to be inactive. 2600 etc (talk) 01:45, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Archbishops of Canterbury

I could do with some assistance on this page. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 09:15, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Progress flag#Request move 11 June 2026

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Progress flag#Request move 11 June 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Dudzcar (talk) 06:56, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:North Korea § The "new" flag is original research

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:North Korea § The "new" flag is original research. Inactive000 (talk) | Political and geographical. 16:32, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Request: crest for the Richmond baronets of Hollington (1929)

Hello, I'm working on the Richmond baronets article and would appreciate help completing the heraldic achievement.

An escutcheon of the arms already exists on Commons — File:Blazon of Richmond Baronets of Hollington (1929).svg — but the crest has not yet been drawn. I'd be grateful if someone could create a freely-licensed SVG of the crest (or a full achievement combining arms + crest), so it can be added to the infobox.

The blazon, per Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage (103rd ed., 1963, p. 2056), is:

• Arms: Gules, on a fess cottised Or between two roses Argent barbed and seeded proper, a lion passant of the field.
• Crest: A demi-stag proper, charged on the shoulder with a rose as in the arms, and holding between the forelegs a rose Argent, leaved and slipped, also proper.
• Motto: Labor Vincit.

Here's a reference from the Peerage: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/f9yyvm3v88kmkrz742g6i/6f21a1ef-9fdf-41c3-9edb-a7131dff2ba4.png?rlkey=4w48wdsi5d25a29uqps1lc69r&dl=0

To clarify the crest: the upper half of a stag in natural colour, with a white rose (barbed and seeded proper) on its shoulder, and holding between its forelegs a second white rose that is slipped and leaved (green stem and leaves), shown proper.

I tried generating it in DrawShield, but it can't parse the "charged on the shoulder" and "holding between the forelegs" instructions, so the sub-charges need a human hand. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you!

ABehjat (talk) 08:56, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

File:Coat of Arms of the Richmond baronets.svg

@ABehjat, here's my attempt at an emblazonment based of the given blazon. Let me know if you spot anything wrong with it and I'll try to fix. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 18:56, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

My goodness, my dude! This is a perfect attempt! Thank you! ABehjat (talk) 17:46, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Progress pride flag § Requested move 6 July 2026

An editor has requested that Progress pride flag be moved to Progress Pride flag, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. Raskuly 🐰 02:25, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

Pantone values and digital colour conversions for flags

I'd like to raise a broader question that affects a number of flag articles, not just the Flag of Ireland.

Some official flag specifications (e.g. Ireland, Australia and Iceland) specify Pantone colours without a coated/uncoated suffix, while others explicitly use suffixes such as C.

Following discussion at Talk:Flag of Ireland, the unsupported "U" suffixes were removed because the official specification does not include them. That seems to better reflect the source.

However, this leaves a broader question about the digital colours used in SVG files and infoboxes.

Pantone's C and U suffixes refer specifically to spot inks on coated and uncoated paper. They are not general textile designations; Pantone has a separate system for textiles (FHI/TCX). At the same time, Wikipedia is primarily a digital resource, and many Pantone-to-RGB/Hex workflows (such as Color Bridge) have historically been based on the Solid Coated library.

Given that, what should be the project-wide approach when an official specification simply says "Pantone 347" (or similar) without specifying C or U?

Should digital RGB/Hex values be:

• derived from a documented conversion source (and, if so, which one?),
• explicitly identified as derived approximations rather than official values,
• or handled in some other consistent way?

It would be useful to establish a consistent convention for all flag articles rather than handling each one individually. Marcus365 (talk) 14:06, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

In general, we absolutely should be doing a much better job of distinguishing between the colour specifications given in a source (official or otherwise), such a simple "Pantone 347", and editorial decisions to also include (and/or use in an illustration) a conversion to other colour systems such as RGB. JPD (talk) 01:24, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, I also meant to say that we should identify conversions as conversions but in my opinion calling them approximations is confusing or at least less informative. JPD (talk) 01:44, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

The essence of my question is rather this. Why on Wikipedia flags are mostly depicted in a coated palette. Although the specifications mostly do not mention suffixes? Marcus365 (talk) 06:11, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

Prince William GCB

Two days ago Alastair Bruce of Crionaich Tweeted this photograph of William's stall plate at Westminster Abbey. We now finally have confirmation that he does indeed use the full heraldic achievement of the Prince of Wales. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 20:21, 19 July 2026 (UTC)