Mungo Kitsch

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User:Mungo Kitsch/Guides/List of United States gubernatorial election articles without general results by county

I just want to thank you for compiling this user guide. I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty of updating the list myself. A similar guide for US Senate elections would be great for the future. GigachadGigachad (talk) 22:16, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

@GigachadGigachad: Thanks very much for the kind and encouraging words. And yes, I agree that an equivalent list for the US Senate would be useful. As well as, for that matter, such a list for the House of Representatives (which would be much longer, due to the frequency of such elections, and how they have been truly democratic processes since the 18th century). I plan on eventually submitting both such lists, with the Senate list coming sooner. In terms of length, it won't hurt that few Senate elections were democratic in nature before 1914, thus preemptively truncating the potential length of the list and state sublists. Once I get more worked on with my NBA player stats list, I plan on embarking on the Senate list likely sometime in 2026, probably in the middle of the year.

I saw the nine such county tables you subtracted from the gubernatorial list, and am certainly appreciative of that and appreciate you adding their vote stat tables by county. I intend the list on being a community effort, meaning of course that you and anyone can feel free to contribute to the listed articles anytime and subtract from the list once respective tables are submitted. It's really cool that you add a lot to the electoral politics pages around here, and I look forward to seeing your efforts continue, including but not limited to the list above.

Feel free to give me feedback anytime, and likewise I will drop you a line when I get the Senate list completed.

Mungo Kitsch (talk) 06:49, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

User:Mungo Kitsch/Guides/List of United States gubernatorial election articles without general results by county (2)

I'm currently working on getting several of the Nebraska articles on the list updated. However, it is extremely difficult to do because the state has 93 counties. Additionally, other states have a large amount of counties, like Iowa at 99, which may be almost impossible to do with all of them. Is there a more efficient way of making the tables or not? ^Wiinter_U 04:44, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

@WiinterU: Hi, and thanks for giving me a message over this. I see what you did on many of the more recent Nebraska gubernatorial election pages, and that is certainly a good start.

As for a more efficient way of creating these tables, I definitely get where you're coming from. I don't believe it is impossible to do the tables with multitudes of counties, but it is tedious and time-consuming, for sure; especially for the likes of Georgia and Texas.

I had to chew it over for a while, and I have several steps I can advise so as to increase efficiency while creating these stat tables.

1. Copy and paste all new tables from a preexisting completed one. That way, I believe it is easier to manage, say, cell colors and candidate columns working from a preexisting table, as opposed to creating such a table from scratch.
2. Beause of the very tedious nature of these tables; I recognize that for states such as Nebraska, Indiana, Virginia (with its independent cities); it is an extremely tall order to do any given table of 50+ counties in one setting. One way in which I accommodate this aspect is to create the tables in phases by using a personal sandbox. I personally have a first and a second sandbox for this and other purposes. I invite you to see the editing history I have performed, particularly for the second sandbox. That way, transcribing these tables can be more manageable by being performed in smaller chunks. (One nugget of wisdom that could help with this and other tall tasks: You can only eat the entire pizza with one bite at a time.)
   1. Alternately, you could do the same as #2, but do so on the respective article page. If you choose this phased option on articles, however, make sure to add an {{under construction|date=month/year}} tag at the top of either the "by county" section or the top of the article generally.
3. If you do these tables in sections, and decide at a certain point to leave the task for whatever reason; make sure that the last transcribed row and the first of the remaining non-transcribed rows have a reasonably discernible visual difference. See this edit, which easily demarcates that the last transcribed row features Democrat (or DFL, in this case) and Republican rows switched from the copied table, an alphabetical breah of the county names, and blank cells for third-party candidates not applicable to the older copied table.
4. One more option, instead of coding the tables on Wikipedia, is to transcribe/code the county table on Microsoft Excel. While I personally mostly transcribe the tables on the Wikipedia space, I used the excel option for the very crazy county table on 2016 Indiana Republican presidential primary. If you know the right Excel coding, such as =F15/V15, or =B26+D26+F26+H26+J26+L26+N26+P26+R26 to name two examples, then some of the math you would otherwise do manually would instead be automatically figured out by the Excel coding itself. Thanks to Excel, I was able to remove days, maybe even a week or two from the duration of the 2016 Indiana primary table project I was working on. I think of all the pieces of numbered info I've given you here, this one may be the most impactful way to make creating these and similar tables more efficient, so long as you are willing to wikify the data when transporting it from Excel to Wikipedia.

That is what I come up with at the moment. In a few days, I'm happy to do a Nebraska table on a governor election page, so that I can do at least a small part in advancing that ball down the hill. Perhaps having a statewide empty template to copy and paste for all 50 states could be useful for these electoral politics pages.

Let me know if my response and its advice helps you, and feel free to drop me a line here anytime.

Mungo Kitsch (talk) 08:48, 24 December 2025 (UTC)