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While I admire the effort, I see a few red flags in the code.
As for the statements:
I suggest you learn more about modern programming to make the framework better.
Thanks so much for the detailed feedback, David — I really appreciate it.
You're right about PHP 8.0 — it's past EOL, and upcoming versions of Velto will shift to PHP 8.2+ as the minimum.
Axion initially started as a part of the core, but it's being separated into its own Composer package to improve modularity and flexibility.
As for RVC — you're also right that it's not a formal pattern. I positioned it intentionally as a minimalist routing-view-controller structure to suit small-scale apps or static-style pages that still need routing and templating, without enforcing full MVC conventions.
The mention of “static website” was maybe misleading — I meant simple frontend websites (like landing pages, company profiles), not purely static HTML generators. That’s on me for wording it loosely.
And I hear your final point — I’m continuously learning, and passionate about evolving Velto into something more robust and modern. Your critique helps a lot. Thank you again!
The best of luck! If i see updates, I will will give my honest opinion.
Thank you so much David
Love the initiative, but it seems like Laravel Lite. We need a competitor to Laravel instead. I use Fiber as an alternative to Laravel at times, simply because it's lean and feature-packed.
Here's some of my pain points with Laravel, maybe it'll help:
Fields on models. Like in Django, you add fields to the model, so it's easy throughout your application without any extra effort to just type:
user.and get property suggestions. In Laravel, you have to use docblocks and so forth to do the same.Folder structure is archaic. I prefer HMVC, similar to how Django does it, where each portion of your app is a small module. You would have: controller.php, model.php,routes.php and templates/ inside each app next to each other. This makes life so much simpler than jumping around the filesystem, and it also keeps business logic encapsulated and modular.
Thank you so much, Kevin — this is exactly the kind of insight I appreciate 🙏
You're absolutely right — at the moment, VeltoPHP is still closer to a Laravel-lite (with a touch of simplicity-first philosophy). My current goal is to help solo developers and small projects avoid the steep learning curve of full-stack frameworks.
But your suggestions hit home — especially the part about:
Model field introspection — I totally agree that the way Django exposes fields is very developer-friendly. I've been thinking about integrating this kind of declarative model system.
HMVC modular layout — This really got me thinking. I love the idea of a modular setup where controller, model, view, and routes live together in a single directory per "unit" of logic. It makes onboarding and navigation much easier, and encapsulates logic better.
You’ve inspired me to consider a Velto 2.0 branch, where we might explore a hybrid: fiber-speed, HMVC layout, with optional typed-models.
Would love to chat further or even collaborate if you're up for it! 🙌 Thanks again for taking the time to write all of this.
Glad that I could help. I've followed you on here, will keep an eye on this project. Quite interesting. I'm more than happy to test out new versions and give feedback.
Thank you so much! I'm really glad to hear your enthusiasm and support for VeltoPHP. Community feedback means a lot for the development of this project. I'll make sure to keep sharing updates, and I truly appreciate your willingness to test new versions and provide feedback. 🙌
Once again, thank you so much
try doppar.com
Thanks looks interesting.
To fellow developers who happen to drop by — I'd really appreciate your feedback as well.
This framework is still evolving, and your insights would be incredibly helpful 🙌
Good efforts
Thank you so much Mahedi
Yes sure, thats cool
I will try your framework