Timeline for With infinite scrolling, do scrollbars still make sense?
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| Aug 21, 2012 at 0:13 | history | edited | Valeria Spirovski | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 21, 2012 at 0:06 | history | edited | Valeria Spirovski | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 20, 2012 at 23:56 | comment | added | Valeria Spirovski | I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying that they've learned this behaviour and it no longer impedes their experience as they understand this function. Your question was: is there a need for a scrollbar in 2012, if there is, how should it look like (including fallbacks) and if there is not, what should come instead? Why, why not? and my answer was: absolutely scrollbars are required, and this is irrespective of whether they are browser or jscript added scrollbars. Additionally the scrollbar mechanic should not be modified since users understand it. I'll update my answer. | |
| Aug 20, 2012 at 23:51 | comment | added | Aadaam | Saying that "yeah, it's bad but everyone is used to it by now so why bother" is not an answer for this question I'm afraid. We're talking about replacing a scrollbar, which facebook doesn't do. User testing can only be done on alternatives in this case exactly because it's widespread: one can only show that an iPhone is way much better than the Nokia Symbian, if at least a prototype iPhone was invented. That was the whole point of the question, an eligible answer is something which could be shown to the users for a user test. | |
| Aug 20, 2012 at 23:11 | comment | added | Valeria Spirovski | I already gave you an example solution - the facebook timeline. Also just because you 'feel' the combination is bad doesn't mean that it is. Users are used to this combination now. If you think it is bad, show this with some user tests. The context given is not enough - gallery or image sharing sites may still have users that have different goals or who use the platform differently to other image sharing sites. Some users won't care since they don't want to browse every image in someone's 3000. Or some might want to view images from a particular time period, in which case facebooks idea works | |
| Aug 20, 2012 at 13:03 | comment | added | Aadaam | No, I'm not working for G. Infinite scroll is a general pattern occuring frequently nowadays. Scrollbars are also frequent patterns. Yet I feel that their current combination is bad. I gave context in which you, as a computer user (you're likely using one right now!) can easily think, or you can watch your own co-workers using such sites, and I want to see solution ideas to this situation: wireframes, pattern explanations, in general to the UX community, just like infinite scrolling is generally available. Ofc, I work on similar applications, but this way it could be shared knowledge. | |
| Aug 20, 2012 at 12:54 | comment | added | Valeria Spirovski | sorry are you user testing g+ image galleries? Or are you creating your own? Either way, what are your users' goals? | |
| Aug 20, 2012 at 11:48 | comment | added | Aadaam | I gave a context, newsfeeds and galleries. The size varies of course, some people upload 10 pictures,some do 3000. What kind of design alternatives would you show to users on testing? People scroll mostly downwards, I used a target audience which is likely to be found in your office... | |
| Aug 20, 2012 at 3:29 | comment | added | Valeria Spirovski | @aadaam I'm not hugely familiar with google plus, but it depends on how users use the platform. What would they be looking for if they needed to scroll a large way back? Would you be able to fulfil their needs with a search or sort/filter? If I were google I'd do a field study - observe users using the platform - and determine how they use the scrollbar and what we can implement to make it easier for them to do whatever they're already doing. Remember the foundation of usability is empirical data - without empirical data even if you're an expert you're still just making an educated guess. | |
| Aug 20, 2012 at 2:36 | comment | added | Aadaam | ok, so, in case you're the guy to design that virtual scrollbar for gPlus, how would you design it? | |
| Aug 20, 2012 at 2:03 | history | answered | Valeria Spirovski | CC BY-SA 3.0 |