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Octal was widely used some 50 years ago by Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) and other companies that had computers with a 12-bit word (e.g. the PDP-8) or other multiples of six, such as 18 and 36 (e.g. UNIVAC 1108). I used both the PDP-8 and UNIVAC 1108 in grad school. Characters in both machines typically used six bits, not 8.

PDP-8 instruction format

PDP-8 instruction format -- note the bits are numbered 0 -> 11. Bit 0 was the MSB (most significant bit).

When DEC had such a hard time giving upcame out with the 16-bit PDP-11, they continued to use octal that allin their documentation instead of hexadecimal as used by the documentation forother minicomputer manufacturers coming out with 16-bit machines at the time. This was probably because of the multiple 3-bit fields within the PDP-11 instruction formats like Register, Mode and Src/Dest which lent themselves to be decoded as an octal digit. (Thanks to John Strohm for pointing this out.)

Interestingly, when Motorola came out with their 68000 microprocessor, which was a 16heavily influenced by the PDP-11 and had the same 3-bit processorMode and Register fields in the instructions, they chose to use only hexadecimal in their documentation.

Because the PDP-11 used octal notation rather than hexadecimal. This is, the reason that original permission codes for Unix, which first appeared on the PDP-11, usealso used octal. (But by the time the PDP-11 was announced This legacy persists in Linux, DEC had at least switchedwhere the chmod command still uses octal to numberingspecify each of the bits 15 -> 0)three bit 'rwx' fields.

Some more trivia -- CompuServe, which was a widely used dial-up online service in the 1980's and early 1990's (before being overshadowed by AOL), ran on DEC minicomputers, at least originally. All user ID's were numeric, and at some point I made the observation that they never included any 8's or 9's in them, thus they were in octal. My old CIS ID was 70205.

Octal was widely used some 50 years ago by Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) and other companies that had computers with a 12-bit word (e.g. the PDP-8) or other multiples of six, such as 18 and 36 (e.g. UNIVAC 1108). I used both the PDP-8 and UNIVAC 1108 in grad school. Characters in both machines typically used six bits, not 8.

PDP-8 instruction format

PDP-8 instruction format -- note the bits are numbered 0 -> 11. Bit 0 was the MSB (most significant bit).

DEC had such a hard time giving up octal that all of the documentation for the PDP-11, which was a 16-bit processor, used octal notation rather than hexadecimal. This is the reason that original permission codes for Unix, which first appeared on the PDP-11, use octal. (But by the time the PDP-11 was announced, DEC had at least switched to numbering the bits 15 -> 0).

Some more trivia -- CompuServe, which was a widely used dial-up online service in the 1980's and early 1990's (before being overshadowed by AOL), ran on DEC minicomputers, at least originally. All user ID's were numeric, and at some point I made the observation that they never included any 8's or 9's in them, thus they were in octal. My old CIS ID was 70205.

Octal was widely used some 50 years ago by Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) and other companies that had computers with a 12-bit word (e.g. the PDP-8) or other multiples of six, such as 18 and 36 (e.g. UNIVAC 1108). I used both the PDP-8 and UNIVAC 1108 in grad school. Characters in both machines typically used six bits, not 8.

PDP-8 instruction format

PDP-8 instruction format -- note the bits are numbered 0 -> 11. Bit 0 was the MSB (most significant bit).

When DEC came out with the 16-bit PDP-11, they continued to use octal in their documentation instead of hexadecimal as used by the other minicomputer manufacturers coming out with 16-bit machines at the time. This was probably because of the multiple 3-bit fields within the PDP-11 instruction formats like Register, Mode and Src/Dest which lent themselves to be decoded as an octal digit. (Thanks to John Strohm for pointing this out.)

Interestingly, when Motorola came out with their 68000 microprocessor, which was heavily influenced by the PDP-11 and had the same 3-bit Mode and Register fields in the instructions, they chose to use only hexadecimal in their documentation.

Because the PDP-11 used octal notation, the original permission codes for Unix, which first appeared on the PDP-11, also used octal. This legacy persists in Linux, where the chmod command still uses octal to specify each of the three bit 'rwx' fields.

Some more trivia -- CompuServe, which was a widely used dial-up online service in the 1980's and early 1990's (before being overshadowed by AOL), ran on DEC minicomputers, at least originally. All user ID's were numeric, and at some point I made the observation that they never included any 8's or 9's in them, thus they were in octal. My old CIS ID was 70205.

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Octal was widely used back some 50 years ago by Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) and other companies that had computers with a 12-bit word (e.g. the PDP-8) or other multiples of six, such as 18 and 36 (e.g. UNIVAC 1108). I used both the PDP-8 and UNIVAC 1108 in grad school. Characters in both machines typically used six bits, not 8.

PDP-8 instruction format

PDP-8 instruction format -- note the bits are numbered 0 -> 11. Bit 0 was the MSB (most significant bit).

DEC had such a hard time giving up octal that all of the documentation for the PDP-11, which was a 16-bit processor, used octal notation rather than hexadecimal. This is the reason that original permission codes for Unix, which first appeared on the PDP-11, use octal. (But by the time the PDP-11 was announced, DEC had at least switched to numbering the bits 15 -> 0).

Some more trivia -- CompuServe, which was a widely used dial-up online service in the 1980's and early 1990's (before being overshadowed by AOL), ran on DEC minicomputers, at least originally. All user ID's were numeric, and at some point I made the observation that they never included any 8's or 9's in them, thus they were in octal. My old CIS ID was 70205.

Octal was widely used back some 50 years ago by Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) and other companies that had computers with a 12-bit word (e.g. the PDP-8) or other multiples of six, such as 18 and 36 (e.g. UNIVAC 1108). I used both the PDP-8 and UNIVAC 1108 in grad school. Characters in both machines typically used six bits, not 8.

PDP-8 instruction format

PDP-8 instruction format -- note the bits are numbered 0 -> 11. Bit 0 was the MSB (most significant bit).

DEC had such a hard time giving up octal that all of the documentation for the PDP-11, which was a 16-bit processor, used octal notation rather than hexadecimal. This is the reason that original permission codes for Unix, which first appeared on the PDP-11, use octal. (But by the time the PDP-11 was announced, DEC had at least switched to numbering the bits 15 -> 0).

Some more trivia -- CompuServe, which was a widely used dial-up online service in the 1980's and early 1990's (before being overshadowed by AOL), ran on DEC minicomputers, at least originally. All user ID's were numeric, and at some point I made the observation that they never included any 8's or 9's in them, thus they were in octal. My old CIS ID was 70205.

Octal was widely used some 50 years ago by Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) and other companies that had computers with a 12-bit word (e.g. the PDP-8) or other multiples of six, such as 18 and 36 (e.g. UNIVAC 1108). I used both the PDP-8 and UNIVAC 1108 in grad school. Characters in both machines typically used six bits, not 8.

PDP-8 instruction format

PDP-8 instruction format -- note the bits are numbered 0 -> 11. Bit 0 was the MSB (most significant bit).

DEC had such a hard time giving up octal that all of the documentation for the PDP-11, which was a 16-bit processor, used octal notation rather than hexadecimal. This is the reason that original permission codes for Unix, which first appeared on the PDP-11, use octal. (But by the time the PDP-11 was announced, DEC had at least switched to numbering the bits 15 -> 0).

Some more trivia -- CompuServe, which was a widely used dial-up online service in the 1980's and early 1990's (before being overshadowed by AOL), ran on DEC minicomputers, at least originally. All user ID's were numeric, and at some point I made the observation that they never included any 8's or 9's in them, thus they were in octal. My old CIS ID was 70205.

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Octal was widely used back some 50 years ago by Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) and other companies that had computers with a 12-bit word (e.g. the PDP-8) or other multiples of six, such as 18 and 36 (e.g. UNIVAC 1108). I used both the PDP-8 and UNIVAC 1108 in grad school. Characters in both machines typically used six bits, not 8.

PDP-8 instruction format

PDP-8 instruction format -- note the bits are numbered 0 -> 11. Bit 0 was the MSB (most significant bit).

DEC had such a hard time giving up octal that all of the documentation for the PDP-11, which was a 16-bit processor, used octal notation rather than hexadecimal. ThatThis is the reason that original permission codes for Unix, which first appeared on the PDP-11, use octal. (But by the time the PDP-11 was announced, DEC had at least switched to numbering the bits 15 -> 0).

Some more trivia -- CompuServe, which was a widely used dial-up online service in the 1980's and early 1990's (before being overshadowed by AOL), ran on DEC minicomputers, at least originally. All user ID's were numeric, and at some point I made the observation that they never included any 8's or 9's in them, thus they were in octal. My old CIS ID was 70205.

Octal was widely used back some 50 years ago by Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) and other companies that had computers with a 12-bit word (e.g. the PDP-8) or other multiples of six, such as 18 and 36 (e.g. UNIVAC 1108). I used both the PDP-8 and UNIVAC 1108 in grad school. Characters in both machines typically used six bits, not 8.

DEC had such a hard time giving up octal that all of the documentation for the PDP-11, which was a 16-bit processor, used octal notation rather than hexadecimal. That is the reason that original permission codes for Unix, which first appeared on the PDP-11, use octal.

Some more trivia -- CompuServe, which was a widely used dial-up online service in the 1980's and early 1990's (before being overshadowed by AOL), ran on DEC minicomputers, at least originally. All user ID's were numeric, and at some point I made the observation that they never included any 8's or 9's in them, thus they were in octal. My old CIS ID was 70205.

Octal was widely used back some 50 years ago by Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) and other companies that had computers with a 12-bit word (e.g. the PDP-8) or other multiples of six, such as 18 and 36 (e.g. UNIVAC 1108). I used both the PDP-8 and UNIVAC 1108 in grad school. Characters in both machines typically used six bits, not 8.

PDP-8 instruction format

PDP-8 instruction format -- note the bits are numbered 0 -> 11. Bit 0 was the MSB (most significant bit).

DEC had such a hard time giving up octal that all of the documentation for the PDP-11, which was a 16-bit processor, used octal notation rather than hexadecimal. This is the reason that original permission codes for Unix, which first appeared on the PDP-11, use octal. (But by the time the PDP-11 was announced, DEC had at least switched to numbering the bits 15 -> 0).

Some more trivia -- CompuServe, which was a widely used dial-up online service in the 1980's and early 1990's (before being overshadowed by AOL), ran on DEC minicomputers, at least originally. All user ID's were numeric, and at some point I made the observation that they never included any 8's or 9's in them, thus they were in octal. My old CIS ID was 70205.

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