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DougFNJ

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For years I did the annual upgrades on my iPhones and iPads up until the M1. I never went with the larger sizes because my MacBook always filled that gap, and I always preferred portability. M2 was the only one I skipped. When Apple went OLED with the Nano texture display with the iPad M4, I was all over it. I had gotten the 11 inch 2 TB with the Nano. I use my iPad a lot, it replaced my MacBook in my bag, I am on the road most days. For context, I do a lot of project work in Property Management. I use it for photos and video, drawing up on plans, signatures, email and texting, I live in Goodnotes. I type up reports and use Word and Excel a lot. I do Zoom calls On breaks I watch YouTube, and I want to start using it for Final Cut. I also read books and magazines on it. I love the Nanotexture being that I am outside a lot. Having no glare when doing work in my car or sitting outside typing a report is great.

To be clear, the M4 performs incredibly. The one thing I was extremely disappointed with was them discontinuing the Keyboard Folio. The areas I wanted them to improve on- the battery was good but not great, and it took forever to charge.

When they announced the new M5 iPads, I was going to initially pass, I didn't feel there were enough upgrades. Then I read they used faster SSD and Memory, they increased the speed and efficiency of the SIM card for faster wireless, and of course the faster charging. With the M5, I was wondering if battery life would also improve. So I figured I would give it a shot, if there wasn't any noticeable difference, I'd bring it back.

I went with the same specs as the M4, 11 Inch, 2 TB, Nano. I use my MacBook to transfer data, using the Thunderbolt Cable, that was the fastest I've ever seen a device loaded up, and I have a lot of data. I took it out Day 1 and used it a LOT. First thing I noticed immediately is how fast the mobile data is. Everything is immediate. Fringe areas on Verizon's network where my iPhone was loading a little slow, the iPad loaded immediately, it didn't skip a beat. On that note, I also noticed there was zero load anywhere when doing anything on this iPad. Again, not saying the M4 was slow by any stretch, but there is absolutely no hesitation with anything I throw at it. The M4 was fast, M5 is just faster. Another thing I noticed is at the end of the day with same usage, my M4 would be at or below 50%. M5 was at 75%. It took a few more days of heavy used to get below 20% where I plugged it in. Where the M4 would drag, the M5 was at 80% in a half hour and fully charged not long after that. I didn't time it, but it was very noticeably faster to charge. This is handy in itself for the amount of times I took the M4 out with half charge and concerned about losing battery, I could fast charge this to not have to worry at all.

Needless to say, I kept the M5. As iterative as the upgrade initially seemed on the surface, they have improved everything under the hood. Many people would not see the differences I am pointing out here. I'm not saying M5 is a must upgrade from the M4. I'm a gadget geek, and a power user. I take enjoyment in these improvements.
 
I am also a tech geek and have had most iPad pros (all generations except the A12Z, still have the A9X, A10X, A12X, M1, M2, M4 and I have had the M5).
I tested the base cellular M5 for a month then returned it.
Got a 2TB M4 for little more (and sold my base M4 cellular).
For me the advantages of the M5 mostly didn't matter, I don't care about faster cellular, 5G is plenty in any M iPad, I don't care about faster GPU as I don't game. The SSD speed in the base M5 is roughly on par with the 2TB M4. And even then again the speed difference is neglible even compared with M1 for me. Fast charging was nice but it stops at 50% then it's identical to M4. And I rarely go below 50% anyway.
I guess it's a matter of priorities and for me the main improvement of the M4 was the weight of the 13". Then the display, but not so much because of tandem oled but because they improved the antireflective coating.
And I care a lot about the speakers and the M5 13 was slightly worse than the M4.
Again different people, different priorities.
 
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M4 8GB to M5 12GB, is night and day here.
Indeed, it seems half way between 8 and 16 but it's much closer to 16 than to 8. Why? Because some of that 8 is used by the OS, so the actual RAM available to the apps before the system starts to eject stuff is more like 5 or little more, so when you add 4 you are almost doubling the free RAM. It's exactly what happened between the 4GB and 6GB iPad pro 2018.
 
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In my opinion, whether a person notices the difference is dependent on how the iPad is being used. Merely knowing the specs are different doesn’t translate to real world day to day experience.
For the most part. Just initially navigating, I did notice it was a bit zippier, everything was responsive and immediate. I 100% noticed a big difference in the wireless network speeds. Don't know what they did, but I would love to see them do it with the iPhone. My experience so far with this M5 is zero lag or hang anywhere.

I also don't find that it charges fast to 50% then trickle charges. I plug the charger in at any percentage, and it charges to full much quicker than the M4 which sometimes took almost 2 hours from low.

On the speakers, I definitely felt the sound was tinny on the M4. M5 has felt a little deeper, I feel it’s improved from the M4 but not dramatically so.
 
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What are you guys doing with your iPads? I briefly got an M5 last week to try it out, and for the most part it was exactly the same experience for me. Everything is immediate as both (even did side by side comparison). I don’t do anything special just browsing and content consumption and some light work, but still surprised that some people are finding it to be a difference. I just ended up returning the M5 and will try again with the M6, as I was paying for effectively the same device I already own. I also didn’t notice any performance difference between an iPhone 16 Pro Max and iPhone 17 Pro Max, but the iPhone at least provided the camera updates, and battery improvements that did make a difference for my usage.
 
I also don't find that it charges fast to 50% then trickle charges. I plug the charger in at any percentage, and it charges to full much quicker than the M4 which sometimes took almost 2 hours from low.
I measured the charging with a power meter, up to 50% it's around almost 60w, after that it's around 37w, just like the M4, that's not trickle charging, just regular charging. If you charge after 50% they charge at the same speed.
On the speakers, I definitely felt the sound was tinny on the M4. M5 has felt a little deeper, I feel it’s improved from the M4 but not dramatically so.
On the 11" they improved the speakers form the M4 to the M5. On the 13" they did the opposite. Still any 13" is fuller and louder than any 11".
 
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The M4 was fast, M5 is just faster.
Who would have thought? By the way, if you compared the M4 iPad Pro with iPadOS 26 then that's a given as some users reported iPadOS 18 to have been snappier on the M4 than iOS 26 even after a full reset to factory defaults. It's really simple, with every new OS and more demanding apps you will almost always see improvements with the very latest and fastest chip. You think M5 is fast now but wait until September 2026 and I bet the M6 iPad Pro will feel faster all over again.

It's all a question of budget and pricing. Costco just had a big sale on the M4 models where the cellular models are discounted by $399 from the MSRP in all configurations depending on stock. They sold out by now so you can imagine that many users would rather save a good chunk of their cash rather than buy the more expensive M5.

M4 8GB to M5 12GB, is night and day here.
I have no doubt it is. But I'd still rather take that Costco M4 deal that I mentioned above for the 1TB model that's 400 dollars off the MSRP.

it charges to full much quicker than the M4 which sometimes took almost 2 hours from low.
That's true. Whether it's a M4 or a M5 model, my bigger issue is that battery life just isn't particularly great compared to the Macbooks. Makes sense as the iPads do not have a keyboard with all that space underneath it for a big battery.

When I am on the go with my M4 iPad Pro and I run out of battery then that's it. Quick recharge times are of no help because I'd have to bring a power bank along. But why bother with that when I could bring my Macbook instead? Not much of a weight difference once I account for the iPad's Magic Keyboard and the power bank on top of that.
 
Who would have thought? By the way, if you compared the M4 iPad Pro with iPadOS 26 then that's a given as some users reported iPadOS 18 to have been snappier on the M4 than iOS 26 even after a full reset to factory defaults. It's really simple, with every new OS and more demanding apps you will almost always see improvements with the very latest and fastest chip. You think M5 is fast now but wait until September 2026 and I bet the M6 iPad Pro will feel faster all over again.

It's all a question of budget and pricing. Costco just had a big sale on the M4 models where the cellular models are discounted by $399 from the MSRP in all configurations depending on stock. They sold out by now so you can imagine that many users would rather save a good chunk of their cash rather than buy the more expensive M5.


I have no doubt it is. But I'd still rather take that Costco M4 deal that I mentioned above for the 1TB model that's 400 dollars off the MSRP.


That's true. Whether it's a M4 or a M5 model, my bigger issue is that battery life just isn't particularly great compared to the Macbooks. Makes sense as the iPads do not have a keyboard with all that space underneath it for a big battery.

When I am on the go with my M4 iPad Pro and I run out of battery then that's it. Quick recharge times are of no help because I'd have to bring a power bank along. But why bother with that when I could bring my Macbook instead? Not much of a weight difference once I account for the iPad's Magic Keyboard and the power bank on top of that.

@JCCL, I added my usage in the original post. It’s why I say it’s definitely not an upgrade for everyone. If I used it lightly mainly for consumption, I’d had stayed with M4.

@okkibs, excellent points. I’d love to just bring the MacBook, but a lot of my work is standing and drawing, the typing comes later with reports. It’s why I need the portability. If they made an iPad Pro mini with a keyboard case, I’d be all over that. It’s also why I’m really looking forward to an iPhone Fold. As long as it works with the Pencil, It could be a dream device for me.
 
First thing I noticed immediately is how fast the mobile data is. Everything is immediate. Fringe areas on Verizon's network where my iPhone was loading a little slow, the iPad loaded immediately, it didn't skip a beat.
100% agree. I couldn’t believe it. At home I get maybe 10-15mbps on my cellular ipad air 3, on the C1X modem M5 iPP I was getting 150mbps down…unbelievable. That was a huge win in my book.
 
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